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Hi,

was that a SARO P.122 ?.

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1946/1946%20-%201280.html
 

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Well it is just a model but it does not feature the revised wing, cockpit or rear step that were a feature of the initial version of the P.122. Also this is a report from Farnborough 1946, a year before the SR.A1 flew and a couple of years before the P.122 project.
 

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Schneiderman said:
Well it is just a model but it does not feature the revised wing, cockpit or rear step that were a feature of the initial version of the P.122. Also this is a report from Farnborough 1946, a year before the SR.A1 flew and a couple of years before the P.122 project.

OK,and thank you Schneiderman.
 

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From; Авиация и Время 2017-02,

a nice pictures to Convair F2Y.
 

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hesham said:
From; Авиация и Время 2017-02,

a nice pictures to Convair F2Y.

Also from the same source.
 

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The project of the Soviet seaplane jetfighter, late 50s. Speed with the engine AL-9 - up to 1700 km / h. Flight range - 2000-2100 km. Armament - a pair of 23 mm cannons and two air-to-air missiles.

Source: https://afirsov.livejournal.com/397536.html
 

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Oh my God,amazing find YouROKer,

and they were from TsAGI .
 

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From Ali Nuove 3/1953,

the Convair Betta.
 

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hesham said:
the Douglas Skyrocket model with hydro-ski-equipped and a ski-plane
fighter by Mr. Henry Knowler.
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1952/1952%20-%203459.html

From Ailes 4/1952.
 

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About one thing i am sure : the ending of seaplane fighters and jetfighters must be researched in primary role of carriers during and after wwii !
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Seaplanes were developed primarily to compensate for a shortage of runways. All the concrete runways built during WW2 rendered seaplanes pretty much obsolete after the war.
Also consider that seaplane empty weight is usually double that of landplanes flying the same mission. That huge hull takes a beating landing on any but the calmest water. Water impact forces limit most seaplane operations to calm inland waters.
The best way to limit water impact loads is limiting touch-down speed, but that requires a huge STOL wing and STOL wings are too big for supersonic flight.
 

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From Ailes 11/4/1953.
 

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From; Авиация и Время 2017-02,

a nice pictures to Convair F2Y.

Did Convair ever solve problems with pounding in large waves?
Which ski configuration worked better: one ski or two?
 

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'Sensitivity to sea-state' would seem the critical weakness, conversely a 'displacement' hull shape is ill-suited to high sub-Mach speed, never mind beyond...

{ Warily side-stepping hypersonic 'lifting body' issues, despite some superficial similarities due convergent CFD solutions... ;-) }

IIRC, there are precious-few modern designs, none 'fast', and larger models only used for island hopping, 'water bombing' and coastguard / marine patrol stuff. Is the big Beriev the only sizeable pure-jet ? I don't remember any of the Russian surface-effect Ekranoplan designs suiting 'fighter' applications. Then again, some Ekranoplans surely approached size which could carry 'parasite' V/STOL fighters. Fitting such with a 'ski' against contingencies may appeal, but probably safer and lighter to eject entire cockpit as off-shore survival pod...
 

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From; Авиация и Время 2017-02,

a nice pictures to Convair F2Y.

Did Convair ever solve problems with pounding in large waves?
Which ski configuration worked better: one ski or two?
They found the single ski was better, as there was less vibration. But it still took a pounding, depending on sea state.
 

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From, U.S. Naval Fighters Navy Marine Corps 1922 to 1980s
 

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