SCALP / Storm Shadow / MdCN

DWG said:
That's not entirely inconsistent with a Russian position: "Oh thank god, it wasn't targeted on us"

Plus he seems to be running away from the vehicles.

There's a reasonable amount of speech, a Russian linguist might be able to tell more.
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Yeah not sure if its the same meaning in Russian but he seemed to keep saying 'Phew'
 
DWG said:
That's not entirely inconsistent with a Russian position: "Oh thank god, it wasn't targeted on us"

Plus he seems to be running away from the vehicles.

There's a reasonable amount of speech, a Russian linguist might be able to tell more.
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As a historical linguist who is not specialised in Slavic languages but who knows a fair deal about them, I can say with 100 % certainty that the people on the video are speaking Russian and not with a Ukrainian accent. They reduce /я/ and /е/ in unstressed positions in a way which is typical of Central Russian dialects and Standard Russian but which is highly atypical of Russian-speaking Ukrainians.
 
Translation:
During the night, the Ukrainians launched successful missile attacks against targets in Crimea. In Sevastopol, at least two Storm Shadow missiles hit the main communications center of the Black Sea Fleet. The explosions were also heard near the Belbek airbase. At the Gvardiyske base, fuel warehouses located near the airport were affected.
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Dang, forget to put a translation. Sorry. Just like Tytelman I mentionned in another thread, Tymowski is a top of the list, rock solid information source.
 
As usual they've only got the fuselage, the electronics are in the nose which separates along with the warhead during final attack.
 
WatcherZero said:
As usual they've only got the fuselage, the electronics are in the nose which separates along with the warhead during final attack.
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Rubbish. It stays in one piece until impact, there is plenty of test footage around for you to watch which shows this very clearly. Due to the steep dive angle the rest of the missile basically follows the warhead in and there will be little if anything left. If the airframe survives in this relatively intact state however, the missile must have either been shot down or (most likely) malfunctioned. It then hits the ground at a shallow angle and the warhead as the strongest, heaviest piece detaches and slides on further due to inertia.

Forest Green said:
They can't produce the electronics anyway, so it's fundamentally useless to them.
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No amount of wishful thinking is going to change the fact that they're still happily churning out cruise and ballistic missiles at a pace certain sources would've gleefully pronounced impossible after first few months of the war. Hell, no thanks to the lack of resolve here in the West, they may well be outproducing MBDA right now... Sure, if only we could be bothered to put our money where our mouths are, our combined industrial bases would be capable of outmatching theirs - but the cold, hard truth is that we cannot be bothered.
 
Trident said:
Rubbish. It stays in one piece until impact, there is plenty of test footage around for you to watch which shows this very clearly. Due to the steep dive angle the rest of the missile basically follows the warhead in and there will be little if anything left. If the airframe survives in this relatively intact state however, the missile must have either been shot down or (most likely) malfunctioned. It then hits the ground at a shallow angle and the warhead as the strongest, heaviest piece detaches and slides on further due to inertia.
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Its a tandem warhead and theres been plenty of instances of a damaged fuselage surviving partially intact in soft ground next to targets that have been successfully struck or which have aborted and self destructed. The penetrator warhead section in front of the laser warning marking is missing just leaving the secondary high explosive charge. Its clear during the disassembly that he doesn't have the warhead section just the nose cap that is jettisoned on approach to expose the optics and so is showing of the actuator controls.
 
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Of course, the nose cone is hardly going to remain intact after half a ton of armour piercing warhead has plowed through it... and there certainly has been plenty of footage of unexploded warheads.
 
Trident said:
Of course, the nose cone is hardly going to remain intact after half a ton of armour piercing warhead has plowed through it... and there certainly has been plenty of footage of unexploded warheads.
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The nose cone is ejected on final approach to the target to expose the sensors when it performs its ascent for a top down attack view.
 
DWG said:
That's not entirely inconsistent with a Russian position: "Oh thank god, it wasn't targeted on us"

Plus he seems to be running away from the vehicles.

There's a reasonable amount of speech, a Russian linguist might be able to tell more.
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Pretty sure every troop would be thinking that, in the same situation. American, British, Chinese, wouldn't matter.
 
I might have missed something but I do not see how this could stand as a novelty. ToT coordination have been part of the cruise missiles tactics as early as with the AGM-86.
Remember GW1 launching hours? Hundreds of Cruise missiles were coordinated to strike at a specific time, using assigned routes and terminal trajectory. Some were launched from a/c, some from surface combatants... and some from submarines.
 

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