Ryan Aircraft advertisments - 1940s

[hesham]

From Flying magazine 1944-9/10,

here is an artist drawings for two Ryan four engined designs,the first was commercial
airplane,and the second was a tailless pusher concept,maybe they were just a generic
aircraft,but we must check because we know a little from early Ryan designation ?.

 

[Sherman Tank]

The first isn't a Ryan design at all, it's a Douglas DC-4. Ryan built manifold components for that plane.

The second isn't anything. It's just a piece of generic futuristic concept art drawn for the advertisement.

 

[hesham]

The second isn't anything. It's just a piece of generic futuristic concept art drawn for the advertisement.

Ryan had some tailless designs,from Flickr.

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=ryan aircraft

 

[hesham]

From Flying magazine 1945-5,

again tailless and flying wing designs,and here is a source for the
previous pictures directly;

https://flic.kr/p/Ug69cM

View: https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/34301302531/in/photolist-Ug69cM-Uep6Mc-TckhsR-TdQGnR-Uk94Y7-U2xCCf-UoLFAJ-TmhNmk-TZQEts-Ufyb8x-UpbkWz-UnoutQ-TjSTYN-UbTcww-Udiym7-NQwE8V-Uen1zH-T7M6Gm-UxX5QL-Udu7LU-T7sPho-UnpgdU-TP2rSE-T7By63-Up1H6t-Uep9C2-2cwj6hY-UqKQM8-2buJJps-9v9gym-Tcva1g-TkHSVr-Uo27gP-TjYVu1-UqKW9k-UnXaBp-UjnFfj-UbYCww-UouaYQ-UoAsY9-Ud88Wb-UcNQrg-U5hx2P-TPmbP5-U9TUQ5-Ud4bz9-U2otJm-TaXGby-UcNwYk-UooT1B

https://flic.kr/p/UfRVxz

View: https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/34298723491/in/photolist-UfRVxz-U5m99g-Uki68s-T9sqhd-UBBvSe-TaP31m-UkkMeW-UxXuy7-Unowu3-TZHeMY-UhwRxB-TQRqM1-Usp42t-UqSAWD-UswFeK-UsmDbX-TPcfTf-UBAtZt-Ukmbnj-2buJW3h-U2xbsu-UpjWi4-UkfM53-Th8jnh-Ukh8Vo-UemCKa-UvXchA-Tm1fjM-UvLLoC-TSGohN-UoV6h5-TnZFwa-2buJDzY-T9x1q5-TdyAjF-UBAiax-UqotEb-UxP3Nq-TnYcCr-TZgXEC-Uq7QeK-UkkhW9-UBxvBH-TkQk2x-TkXQSR-T7WqR5-Ug7ZR4-UemJxn-UxWWzh-Tk3CG5

 

[Sherman Tank]

Again, the aircraft in the ads aren't specific Ryan models. They're advertisers' art.

 

[DWG]

Note that the design labelled "jet propulsion" in the ad doesn't have any intakes!

 

[hesham]

Again, the aircraft in the ads aren't specific Ryan models. They're advertisers' art.

If you see many advertisements in this magazine to many companies,
you will find most of them a real aircraft,we can't judge on Ryan because
we have only 10 % from his designation & airplanes and 90 % are not known and in Flickr site we saw a tailless and flying-wing concepts from him,that
means he maybe made those stuff.

 

[Sherman Tank]

The Flickr photos aren't even dated. They could've been from the 1960s for all we know, and apart from being all-wing aircraft the Ryan models don't resemble the art in the ads very closely at all (the models have vertical stabilizers, the artworks don't). Their existence doesn't make those very obvious generic advertising art "aircraft" real designs.

Nor does a lack of a complete catalog of Ryan designations obviously mean that Ryan would include their own unbuilt concepts in their advertising for a correspondence course. Quite the opposite, in fact.

 

[hesham]

They could've been from the 1960s for all we know

Clearly it was from late 1930s or early 1940s and not from 1960 ?!,until we
get Ryan archive,we can't judge.

 

[jcf]

From the photo description on the Flickr page:
"Image from the Teledyne Ryan Archives, donated to SDASM in the 1990s. Many of these images are from Ryan's UAV program-----"

There are also aspects of the photography that suggest a much later origin.
Model 329 photo gallery, note the similarities to the wing photos.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/model329spirit

Example photo.

p.s. the "canopy" in the SDASM flying wing photos isn't a canopy, it's an engine housing.

 

[hesham]

As we see that, Ryan adored with flying wig design,just Advertise.

 

[airman]

From Flying magazine 1944-9/10,

here is an artist drawings for two Ryan four engined designs,the first was commercial
airplane,and the second was a tailless pusher concept,maybe they were just a generic
aircraft,but we must check because we know a little from early Ryan designation ?.

i have seen Flying magazine 1944-9/10 on google books : seems something different : airplane parts projects for aircraft.

 

[hesham]

i have seen Flying magazine 1944-9/10 on google books : seems something different : airplane parts projects for aircraft.

Can you display it my dear Airman ?.

 

[flateric]

Can you display it my dear Airman ?.

READ IT ONCE MORE PLEASE

The first isn't a Ryan design at all, it's a Douglas DC-4. Ryan built manifold components for that plane.

The second isn't anything. It's just a piece of generic futuristic concept art drawn for the advertisement.

Again, the aircraft in the ads aren't specific Ryan models. They're advertisers' art.

 

[Sherman Tank]

Another thing about advertising art is that a not-insignificant amount is done by hired ad agencies who (especially during a major war) are absolutely not privy to the newest company products and unbuilt designs. There's no guarantee that anything in those ads are even based on a Ryan design to begin with, although one is obviously based on a three-view drawing of a DC-4 (which wasn't a Ryan design, just something they worked on as a subcontractor).