Ryan Model 187 Advanced Vertifan strike aircraft (1965)

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Source: Ryan Reporter Vol26 Issue 2 (Jun/July 1965)

This may not be a real project as it says "artists concept". Might be an ancestor of HFB/Ryan HFB 530 Ranger?
 

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I'm not sure that this was a "real project", either, but someone did a lot of work to provide these illustrations for AIAA Paper No. 64-196, "The Lift Fan V/STOL Concept for Future Applications", by J.M.Peterson. A small portion of the artwork appeared in the Ryan VTOL/STOL Projects topic previously.
 

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This 1965 Ryan "Advanced Vertifan" design looks to be aimed at US/FRG project - note German markings.

Source: Aviation Week & Space Technology August 9 1965

Rather similar to this Boeing/EWR US/FRG study:
 

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Identified as Ryan Model 187C

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33620346883/
 

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JimK said:
I'm not sure that this was a "real project", either, but someone did a lot of work to provide these illustrations for AIAA Paper No. 64-196, "The Lift Fan V/STOL Concept for Future Applications", by J.M.Peterson. A small portion of the artwork appeared in the Ryan VTOL/STOL Projects topic previously.
 

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Another Flickr posted picture:
 

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33687901144/in/dateposted/
 

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Please stich these pictures together and clean it up!
 

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dan_inbox said:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33687901144/in/dateposted/

Nice find my dear Dan.
 

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fightingirish said:
Please stich these pictures together and clean it up!

It's hard to think it would have made a sensible solution, thinking about the engineering challenges.
 

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/34247874396/in/album-72157680435446852/
 

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What intrigue me is:

Most depiction of Model 187C have Germans marking of Bundeswehr Luftwaffe !
was the Model 187 proposal for Germans for VTOL strike aircraft, the germans were looking for in end of 1960 ?
Or had Ryan team up with the German Aircraft Manufacture HFB for this stile VTOL engine ?
 

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Michel Van said:
What intrigue me is:

Most depiction of Model 187C have Germans marking of Bundeswehr Luftwaffe !
was the Model 187 proposal for Germans for VTOL strike aircraft, the germans were looking for in end of 1960 ?
Or had Ryan team up with the German Aircraft Manufacture HFB for this stile VTOL engine ?

I would guess the answer to those questions would be "both'.
 

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This design is 1965. In 1968, Ryan and HFB had been conducting joint studies for 2 years ending up with the HFB 530 / Y2A Ranger.
 

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From the same issue of Aviation Week (9 August 1965) comes this drawing of the Model 187B, posted in lower res many years ago on this topic
 

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And Caravellarella posted this here which has dimensions and other stats.

(cleaned up)
 

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