RCA Astra-1 - the (mostly unknown) CF-105 Arrow radar

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I checked, no thread for this one.
It was developed by RCA between early 1956 and september 1958 when it was canned. Before and after these dates, ( sigh...) the prefered option was the MX-1179 / MA-1.
While the Sparrow II missile is well known, Astra 1 remains kind of mystery. It has been lost in the Arrow myth...

How did it compared to
- MA-1 (F-106)
- X24-A (F5D-1 Skylancer, Sparrow II too)
- early Phantoms avionics ?

Was it ever declassified ?
 
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I have looked, on occasion, for any information about this system. I have found practically nothing of use.

I believe it was basically identical to the MA-1 in function - radar, autopilot, interception calculation and weapon firing parameter calculation. Some references state it would have a datalink to GCI as well, although Canada was not part of SAGE so I'm not sure what it would do other than send a coordinate from the radar station. Even that would require new equipment at the stations and likely the airbases too.

And... that's it. I've found nothing else on the system. Why Avro decided to select a system that didn't even exist on paper yet is a mystery to me. While the MA-1 was indeed in development hell, I'm not sure why they would think the Astra would magically avoid similar problems. And it didn't...

The only cogent argument I can think of was related to move from Sparrow II to III. The former required only initial cueing and then flew on its own. In contrast, Sparrow III required continual illumination from the host aircraft. Some modification would be needed to support this missile, and perhaps they felt switching to an entirely new system was a better solution?

At some point I'll try to track down what happened to RCA's paperwork - likely at McGill now - and figure out the story.

Speculation mode on:

The obvious selection for the Arrow, of course, was AIRPASS. This was already entering testing in 1955, before the move to the Astra. AIRPASS was dramatically more advanced than any of these designs and remained so until the F-4 upgrades (J model?). It was completely transistorized, fully digital, and much, much smaller than MA-1. The entire system would have easily fit within the Arrow's radome, with ample room for a larger reflector with improved gain. It also lacked an illumination mode, but given size and weight considerations, such an addition on AIRPASS would have been significantly easier (lots of room for a completely separate illuminator radar on a second antenna).
 
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Wow thanks for your post. Because it is not a US system and because of the 1959 scorched salted earth policy, Astra-1 seems to have vanished into a deep black hole.

Overscan once suggested this

It seems like RCA won a contract to develop a radar for the LRI-X in June 1956 in opposition to Hughes AN/ASG-18, after lack of progress from Sperry (previously the competitor to Hughes on this). This MUST tie into ASTRA, and makes sense of the ASTRA-2 being a hugely ambitious pulse doppler radar.

Note RCA is not Canadian, it was based in New Jersey. Their Missile and Surface Radar division designed the AEGIS.

AIRPASS ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIRPASS

Indeed it looks damn impressive.
 
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If I may, Avro did not select the Astra. From the looks of it, the RCAF abandoned a firing system designed by Hughes Aircraft, then under development for the United States Air Force, in 1956, in favor of a more efficient equipment designed for meet its specific requirements. Hughes Aircraft having refused to work on this project, Radio Corporation of America (RCA), an American giant with little experience in the field, took on the challenge. Thus was born the astranomically expensive Astra system.

At the risk of stirring a hornet's nest, Avro wanted to have a very high performance aircraft using the best missile and fire control system in service ou soon to be in service, made by Hughes aircraft. The RCAF wanted the best. Period. It chose the Sparrow II missile, which was soon abandoned by its future main user, the U.S. Navy, which led to Canada paying for the final development of the missile. The RCAF also convinced the government to sign a contract with RCA to develop the Astra fire control system. With few if any people at the Department of National Defence tabulating precisely how much money was being spent on the airframe, the missile, the fire control system, the Canadian-designed engine, etc., the cost of the Arrow program began to climb faster and faster. When that cost was finally tabulated, people fell off their chair.
 
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The radar and missile were the Arrow achille heel. The engine was fine and the airframe was excellent.
To me the Arrow sad story symbolizes the exact moment when avionics costs overran airframe and engine own combined values. Imagine a Phantom a F-15 or a F-35 without any electronics. Unlike a Spitfire or a F-86, a splendid airframe with an excellent engine ain't enough anymore... F-104 and Mig-21 were the very last of an era.
 
Canada just happened to be the country in the line of flight for Russian bombers, and later, ICBMs.

"I think it is wrong to leave the impression with the Minister and the government that our air defence plan is primarily for the defence of Canadian territory when in fact, any defence of Canadian territory is but a by-product or extra dividend to the main purpose, which is the defence of SAC bases and Northeastern United States."

-- Chief of the General Staff Lieutenant-General H.D. Graham, in a top secret letter to Chairman Chiefs of Staffs Charles Foulkes, August 21,1958"

A few additional details about problems related to Astra:

"As mentioned, Astra costs soared from an estimated $72 million to $208 million in less than a year, and it is no wonder, given such arrangements. This massive increase put Avro in a bad light, even though they had nothing directly to do with the Astra development."

"Perhaps Bill Turner is correct in his conclusion that Astra was initially chosen when the U.S. refused Canada their system on the basis of national security. The facts deviate, though, in September 1958: recognizing that RCA could not produce, the Prime Minister elected to cancel the Astra/Sparrow combination and to attempt once again to obtain a Hughes system.

"The United States eventually provided the MX-1179, referred to as MA-1, but perhaps too late. This system was being installed in Arrow RL-202 at the time of cancellation. Still, it was not just the MX-1179 that was being obtained. It was this system and the Falcon missile. Therefore, MX-1179 would not require much modification. This obviated the need for the U.S. to release detailed sensitive manufacturing and operational data in order to control a Canadian missile..."

"On July 29, 1958, [Air Vice Marshall] Hendricks wrote to the Vice Chief of the Air Staff. He stated that the Sparrow missile had been chosen because it was believed to have a greater kill potential than the other missiles then being considered. It was also more resistant to electronic countermeasures. He then stated rather bluntly,

'We are now being stampeded into considering Genie as the weapon merely because it makes a big atomic bang. I suggest that it still has the same inadequacies as it did when we considered it for the CF 100.'

"On the same day, the Chief of the Air Staff sent a memo requesting that Avro be instructed to begin the Genie development program."

"Integration of the Genie with Astra had been put in the contract with RCA. However, it was stated that this requirement was of a low priority. Consequently, no work had been done on this aspect as concentrated effort had been placed on integrating the Sparrow missile to the system. All of this changed by August 7, 1958. Priority was now placed on the nuclear Genie missile. For example, Avro required information on flight characteristics, trajectory, range, method of launch, methods of calculating safe time of flight, accuracy requirements, and the like, but this information was classified. Not only could Canada not obtain the Hughes fire control, as Bill Turner suggests, they could not get the weapon of choice."

"On September 21, 1958, the Canadian government finally cancelled the ill-fated, ill-conceived Sparrow/Astra system. Approval to obtain and install the Hughes MA-1 electronic fire control system, with Falcon and nuclear Genie missiles, was finally granted by the Minister of National Defence on November 5, 1958. The option was discussed with the USAF and agreed to, and soon work began to acquire and install the system in Arrow RL-202. This had the effect of substantially lowering the cost of the Arrow."

"... But use and handling of American nuclear weapons by Canadians was still somewhat problematic and needed to be sorted out. Overshadowing this was the higher priority being accorded the Bomarc."


The above from Requiem for a Giant by Palmiro Campagna

In conclusion, although the RCAF had their requirements, in the end the choice of using RCA was just the wrong choice, there were security issues involving equipment, especially nuclear warheads, and the United States, not Canada, could dictate terms it found most agreeable.
 
If I may, the RCAF was not necessarily stampeded into considering the Douglas Genie as a weapon for the Arrow. Indeed, it looks as if a number of people within the RCAF and / or the Department of National Defence had considered the possibility of mounting this unguided nuclear rocket on the aircraft as early as 1956.
 
And don't forget that the BOMARC and Genie nuclear warheads led to the collapse of Diefenbaker government in February 1963. After the vaunted BOMARCs sat iddle, without nuclear warheads, during the Cuban missiles crisis.
 
Overscan once suggested this

It seems like RCA won a contract to develop a radar for the LRI-X in June 1956 in opposition to Hughes AN/ASG-18, after lack of progress from Sperry (previously the competitor to Hughes on this). This MUST tie into ASTRA, and makes sense of the ASTRA-2 being a hugely ambitious pulse doppler radar.

Note RCA is not Canadian, it was based in New Jersey. Their Missile and Surface Radar division designed the AEGIS.

(From @RyanC well informed website, God bless his soul)


By the end of May 1956, Hughes and Sperry had received contracts (dated "February 1956 and December 1955, respectively) for the development of an advanced fire control system for the long range interceptor and Sperry's had been cancelled (in May 1956). Hughes and Ramo-Wooldridge had completed studies of the requirements and specifications for a fully integrated system employed in an aircraft operating during the 1960s, giving special consideration to the possibility of installing such a unit in the proposed F-103 aircraft. The work at Sperry and Hughes was to have resulted in an ultimate system available early in 1962. Until that time, the Air Force had already indicated it was prepared to appoint the long range interceptor with a modified MA-1 system (the MX-1179) with a 40 inch antenna. By May, the Hughes proposal for this project was being evaluated in Dayton.

In September 1956, the Pentagon brought the Radio Corporation of America into the program and Hughes and RCA were then charged with development of prototype systems.

Ramo-Wooldridge recommended a high-burst, time fuzed, nuclear warhead rocket, with a Falcon-type infrared missile as auxiliary armament. The nuclear warhead projectile would contain an autopilot, would be preset for flight before launch, and would be able to make a 90 degree turn after launch. The armament would be capable of reaching a target in a very short time period, which would minimise the effect of target maneuver. Since it was pre-guided, it could not be jammed. In association with this new weapon, Ramo-Wooldridge also recommended a lower frequency radar with improved counter-counter measures equipment, and a suitable computer as well as a new technique for hitting high-flying bombers from interceptors at lower altitudes.

The Hughes proposal was predicated on the use of a GAR-X type missile with an interchangeable nuclear or high explosive conventional warhead and an advanced radar or infrared guidance system plus a proximity fuse. Hughes proposed a similarly advanced, though higher frequency radar. In general the Ramo-Wooldridge studies included a more radical approach and seemed best suited for possible future development.41

Little work could be expected on a fire control system designed for an aircraft which was not to be developed but not everyone was so sure that the future of the long range interceptor had been sealed forever. Soon after the act of cancellation, General Partridge proposed a "modified" long range interceptor for consideration. This was a Mach 2.5 vehicle capable of attaining an altitude of 70,000 feet or more with a radius of 300 to 350 nautical miles, one pilot, and a modified MX-1179 fire control system. The general wanted Washington to award North American a contract for development of this interceptor but the Pentagon demurred and instead decided to evaluate the new proposal in conjunction with the older long range interceptor concept established by the same contractor as well as some other variations on the same theme receiving attention at the time.

Finally, the Air Staff met and decided that the old standard long range interceptor was indeed just what the Air Force needed, but that now it should be developed in combination with advanced air-to-air missiles. This decision was supported, and the concept for the new long range interceptor was expanded, by a special generals board (chaired by Major General Albert Boyd, the WADC commander) which concluded its evaluation of the situation in February 1957.

[The board also included Major Generals James Ferguson, Hugh A. Parker, and K. P. Berquist, Col. J. F. Mocenry, and Dr. C. D. Perkins.]

The board reported (directly to the Air Force Chief of Staff) that a ''two-place manned interceptor, capable of attaining a speed of Mach 3.0, altitudes of 70,000 feet plus, and a radius of action of 1000 miles under optimum cruise conditions is essential to the defense of the United States during this period." Such an aircraft had to be able to cruise subsonically and dash at supersonic speeds. For the dash mission, a radius of 350 nautical miles would be necessary, while on "optimum" cruise mission, a 1,000 nautical mile radius would be required.

For the all weather fire control system, the board first required that the equipment be compatible with the flight regime and performance of the air vehicle. Next, they stated that detection ranges "in the order of 80-100 nautical miles, missile ranges of 15-25 nautical miles, and altitude differentials up to 40,000 feet are feasible." They also urged that the system be "designed to take advantage of human capabilities of the cycle of fire control operation."

Further defining the functions and characteristics desired of the fire control system, General Boyd and his compatriots established that the interceptor would "require solid communications" for the 1,000 nautical mile radius and that the navigation system should be incorporated into the fire control system. The fire control system itself was to be "able to operate effectively under close control, modified close control, and under no control conditions." This control was to be exercised by SAGE, airborne radar aircraft, and picket ships.

In addition to the established detection range, the generals felt that a "lock-on range approaching the detection range is considered essential in order to take full advantage of the armament system in an 'all around attack' against targets ranging from subsonic to speeds in excess of Mach 3." Since effective "operation in a counter-measures environment and at altitudes from sea level to above 70,000 feet" was required, the group recommended "that the dual use of pulse doppler radar and infrared detection" was the best solution to the problem.

For a high degree of versatility, the board recommended two types of armament, conventional guided missiles (cast in the Falcon mould), and at least two GAR-X missiles meeting the 15 to 25 mile requirement, capable of use with an "interchangeable HE-atomic warhead." The minimum size for the atomic warhead was established at two kilotons. To reduce the effect of countermeasures, the Boyd group also recommended that the missile have both electronic and infrared guidance.

Finally, the board urged that maximum reliability, simplicity, and ease of maintenance be established as the goals of the fire control and armament systems.

Heeding this analysis, Washington re-instated the long range interceptor on 11 April 1957, ordering development laid down by the generals in February. Fifteen days later ARDC provided the framework for the future of the fire control and missile portions of the new long range interceptor program. First of all, command headquarters decided that the contractors would sign one agreement covering the fire control system and the missile. Next, although one contractor was to be approved as the principal party in this effort, a second source was to be selected "in case HQ USAF makes sufficient funds available to support a competitive development of the complete armament system to a point where a decision can be made based on test results."

Baltimore decreed that the missiles would have to be capable of a 15 to 25 nautical mile range, the 40,000 foot altitude differential established by the February generals board, and semi-active terminal guidance. Passive terminal guidance was required as a secondary device and ARDC stated it would be most happy to see this type of unit installed, along with the primary guidance equipment, in one missile. The missile was also to be launched after a minimum of aircraft positioning.

For the fire control system, ARDC required the unit to be designed so that it comprised a pulse doppler mode (with an additional mode based on pulse-to-pulse shifting "if feasible"), an 80 to 100 nautical mile search range, and infrared search and tracking. It was also to be capable of directing the launch of alternate infrared missiles.42

North American was on contract for development of the long range interceptor—now dubbed the F-108—in June, but the commencement of actual development had to await some further clarifications. With the sir Defense Command stressing the value of the medium range interceptor, the contractor was not quite certain that the F-108 should be designed strictly for the long range task and in July asked for a formal decision on the role expected of the new weapon system. The answer was that while the F-108 was to be designed "primarily to the long range interceptor mission," it was to contain ''provisions for off-loading to perform the medium range and scramble-from-loiter missions."

By this time, Hughes had been accepted as the sole "Missile and Fire Control System" contractor for the F-108. The decision to approve Hughes was based in part on the high cost of maintaining two contractors and a North American evaluation of the proposals prepared by Hughes and RCA. North American gave Hughes a "slight advantage" over RCA, but stated that either would be satisfactory.

Hughes had the edge in the field of countermeasures and ECM was certainly a critical area. Still, North American felt that the RCA system was capable of achieving greater flexibility in operations, but that this would mean higher complexity. In very general terms, the degree of complexity in the equipment proposed by RCA offered more performance at the cost of reliability (especially because the radio corporation proposed an inertial platform for the heart of the system), increased maintenance problems, and increased weight.

Once Hughes was established as the fire control system and missile contractor, the two firms (Hughes and North American) began to design the necessary equipment, and almost immediately ran into some problems with the proposed radar.

Lots of interesting stuff there.
- Hughes wins AN/ASG-18 in spring 1957
- But also Hughes "40-inch MX-1179 / MA-1"
- Sperry canned May 1956
- RCA replace them September 1956 but by June 1957 has lost to Hughes

How does this compares to the Arrow parallel story ?

- the Arrow had the MX-1179 / MA-1C: 1953- January 1956
(and again from September 1958 until cancellation)
- between the two dates was RCA and their ASTRA-1
- the Arrow nose allowed for a 40-inch antenna, whatever the radar
- which is quite interesting because in 1954-1956 were discussions of... a MX-1179 with a 40-inch antenna !

With this out of the way, the Pentagon authorized ARDC to begin preparations for a full scale competition under what the command felt was an "extremely stringent schedule." The Pentagon wanted ARDC to contact the prospective firms by 10 May, begin its evaluation by 16 July, and make its report not later than 17 September 1954. ARDC was to inform the industrial sources that their proposals should be based on the first flight of a prototype with the design engine 30 months after the program had been officially established and this date was set at 1 January 1955.


However, Air Force headquarters did realize that a special situation existed in the case of the fire control system and recognized that a completely new system could not be developed to meet the time schedule. ARDC was advised to consider either adopting a system currently under development or integration of components in existence or currently under development to form the new unit. Separate proposals were to be requested for this portion of the weapon system under the assumption that the first aircraft would be available for tests some 36 months after approval of the project, which was also set for 1 January 1955. Proposals for the fire control system were to be evaluated at WADC and received at ARDC not later than 20 August 1954.37


Altogether, WADC and AMC received and evaluated seven contractor proposals based on the published characteristics and 12 alternate proposals reflecting modifications of the characteristics. Of the seven, Wright Field rated Northrop first, Lockheed second, and Douglas third, with Martin, Boeing, McDonnell, and Republic following in that order. The materiel command (basing its ratings on the ease of maintenance and support, production estimates, and costs) favored Lockheed, Douglas, and Boeing for the highest ratings, followed by Republic, Northrop, Martin, and McDonnell.


None of the proposals fully met the performance requirements. Northrop's N-144 design (powered by four engines) came closest, with a combat ceiling of 56,500 feet, a radius of 1,015 nautical miles, and a speed of Mach 1.76. The McDonnell aircraft could attain the same altitude and had a rated speed of Mach 1.8, but. its range was only 900 nautical miles. Only Republic offered a model comparable to the Northrop aircraft in range and, of all the proposals, Martin's model (capable of a speed of Mach 1.92) was the fastest.


Wright Field also received and reviewed 13 fire control system proposals, none of which met the required search range. Systems proposed by Hughes and Sperry, both employing a 40 inch antenna, could attain a 40 nautical mile range and were rated first and second in the evaluation. Westinghouse was third with a system employing a 46 inch antenna and capable of searching out to 57 nautical miles but the reviewing agencies felt that the Hughes and Sperry systems could provide the same range with the larger antenna.
 

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