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And after:A photo showing how the Conro Trader looked before being attacked with a Neptune.
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On 2 August 2024, Romania and Ukraine announced a plan to manufacture and improve the Neptune missile. [36]
Romania, following the example of other European countries, plans to develop armaments in collaboration with Ukraine, specifically focusing on the R-360 Neptune anti-ship missiles. The importance of cooperation between Bucharest and Kyiv in the defense sector, as well as in energy, was highlighted by Igor Prokopchuk after his visit to Romania. In April 2023, it was revealed that the Ukrainian defense industry was working on modernizing the R-360, although the final results of these efforts remain uncertain.
Indications suggest that the Kerch bridge, especially the rail bridge may fall on its own. There are already weight restrictions on the rail bridge.The Ukrainians have been systematically eliminating Russian SAM sites in Crimea with Neptunes, Storm Shadows and drones, no doubt in preparation for when they finally take out the Kerch strait bridge.
On another note I wonder if this was a standard Neptune or one of the newer extended range Neptunes (Call it the Neptune-ER)?
Sounds improbable; increasing the HE charge three times would seriously hamper missile range, but won't do much good against underground hardened bunkers. I strongly suspect that Storm Shadow with tandem penetrating warhead was used, and "Neptune" mentioned only for political reasons.![]()
Ukraine reportedly uses triple-loaded Neptune missile to strike Russian ammunition depot in Tver region
Analysts report that Ukraine launched a combined strike on ammunition depots in Toropets, deploying a modified Ukrainian "Neptune" missile featuring triple the usual explosive payload. French news outlet Le Monde published a detailed account of how Ukraine decimated a massive Russian ammunition...uawire.org
The Neptune-M was reported as 350kg warhead instead of 150kg and 400-700km range. I originally heard drones from other sources, or maybe Palianytsia.Sounds improbable; increasing the HE charge three times would seriously hamper missile range, but won't do much good against underground hardened bunkers. I strongly suspect that Storm Shadow with tandem penetrating warhead was used, and "Neptune" mentioned only for political reasons.
On another I strongly suspect that the ammunition bunker was first spammed with a mix of drones including the Palanyatia jet-drones to saturate any SAM batteries protecting the bunker to allow the modified Neptunes through
version about Neptune was invented purely for political reasons
Well maybe but they need to develop a cruise missile anyway as the stock of Storm Shadow ain't high. We also don't know how Neptune M (or what even "Neptun" used) actualy looksMy opinion - it was Storm Shadow (a dedicated bunker-buster), and version about Neptune was invented purely for political reasons; to camouflage the fact that Ukraine used British missiles for deep strikes without any official dispensation.
I did not doubt it, but I consider the explanation "it was a modified anti-ship missile" to be extrenely dubious, especially considering that they have weapon much more suited for the description of attack.The Ukrainians are on the public stating that they've been developing improved versions of the R-360 along land-attack variants (Doing basically what the USN did with the Harpoon).
Hardly. No ballistic attacks were reported.Another possible Ukrainian missile that could've been used in the attack is the new Grim-2 MRBM that Ukraine has been developing
No permission given as of today, according to Zelensky.My opinion - it was Storm Shadow (a dedicated bunker-buster), and version about Neptune was invented purely for political reasons; to camouflage the fact that Ukraine used British missiles for deep strikes without any official dispensation.