Proposed Dassault-Bréguet « Atlantic » versions

Jemiba

Moderator
Staff member
Top Contributor
Senior Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2006
Messages
8,346
Reaction score
1,532
In the latest FlugRevue is an article about the Dassault Atlantic, mentioning
besides the realised Br.1150 Atlantic and Atlantique 2, the proposed version
Atlantic Mk II (improved), Atlantic Mk.IIB (Mk.II with additional RR/Snecma
M45H jet engines), Atlantic III (tendered as Nimrod successor), JetAtlantique
(with additional jet engines under the outer wings and Allison T406 engines)
and Europatrol.
Anybody, who has graphical evidence of these versions ?
 

Archibald

ACCESS: Above Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 6, 2006
Messages
6,847
Reaction score
5,679
The Breguet 1190 was a strategic bomber Atlantic! That's not a joke, of course the plane was not intented to overfly it's target, it had a long range missile...(I think I already posted the pics -from Jean Cuny les avions de combats francais 1945-1960-)
 

Jemiba

Moderator
Staff member
Top Contributor
Senior Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2006
Messages
8,346
Reaction score
1,532
"..from Jean Cuny les avions de combats francais 1945-1960-)..."

Or from Les Avions Breguet 1944-1970. ;)
 

Skybolt

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2006
Messages
2,295
Reaction score
209
There were two versions, Br-1190 and 1191. They differed by the weapons they were intended to carry: a ballistic missile fot the -90 (Matra 600) and an aerodynamic one for the -91 (Sud Aviation). The -91 had a longer nose to make space for the longer weapon... By the way, any info regarding the Matra 600 and the Sud-Aviation ramjet (?) would be very much appreciated.. ;)
 

Hood

ACCESS: Top Secret
Staff member
Senior Member
Joined
Sep 6, 2006
Messages
2,592
Reaction score
3,020
'The World's Fighting Planes' by William Green 1964 Ed. makes brief mention of some proposed variants; the Mk.1A with increased overload weight and the Mk.2 "covering a series of studies for a more advanced versions, including one equipped with under-wing auxiliary jet pods to increase dash speed and transit range."
 

toura

ACCESS: Top Secret
Joined
Apr 12, 2008
Messages
1,207
Reaction score
144
From "ZonzAir"
Detail for Atlantic III........In french
 

Attachments

  • Scan.jpg
    Scan.jpg
    877.1 KB · Views: 306

Grey Havoc

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2009
Messages
16,839
Reaction score
6,434

GTX

All hail the God of Frustration!!!
Staff member
Senior Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2006
Messages
3,570
Reaction score
1,809
Website
beyondthesprues.com
I highly doubt it. I would expect the Germans would want to go with the new P-8 as a better solution anyway.
 

Wyvern

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jan 25, 2020
Messages
905
Reaction score
1,174
I highly doubt it. I would expect the Germans would want to go with the new P-8 as a better solution anyway.
They already have, the US has allowed the production of P-8 airframes for Germany to commence.

 

Grey Havoc

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2009
Messages
16,839
Reaction score
6,434
Currently well bogged down in the domestic German political mire at the moment though.
 

TinWing

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jan 3, 2006
Messages
894
Reaction score
108
Currently well bogged down in the domestic German political mire at the moment though.
There's no great political constituency in Germany for what amounts to a helping hand to Boeing, not after the US tariffs on Airbus. The P-8 is the only current solution to a coming capability gap but compare the political costs of a Boeing sale with lapsing that capability for 5, 10 or 15 years in favor of a solution that makes work for Airbus and other European system suppliers?
 

H_K

ACCESS: Secret
Joined
Feb 21, 2010
Messages
294
Reaction score
571
4 Atlantiques are more than enough for what Germany intends to use them for.
 
Top