Piaggio Model Designations

[hesham]

P-146 single seat jet fighter project,resemble Lockheed P-80

From Interavia 1954,

may the P.146 was re-allocated to a luxury version of P.145 twin
engined transport project ?.

 

[Apophenia]

... may[be] the P.146 was re-allocated to a luxury version of P.145 twin engined transport project ?.

Or, more likely the designation allocation went the other way around.

As Nico listed them, the P.145 transport design came first ... before being reallocated to a T-33 class trainer. So, it would make sense that the P.146 was first a luxury transport variant before that designation was reallocated to a P-80 class fighter.

BTW, in entry #1, the P.145 transport project is still listed as being "four-engined". Has it been determined for certain whether the P.145 (and luxury derivatives) were twins or 4-engined?

 

[hesham]

BTW, in entry #1, the P.145 transport project is still listed as being "four-engined". Has it been determined for certain whether the P.145 (and luxury derivatives) were twins or 4-engined?

You are right,I fixed it.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

can I ask if that new Italian aeronautica books have more
unknown projects to Piaggio or not ? @paolomiana

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/th...the-italian-secret-projects-book.38155/page-8

 

[VictorXL188]

In digging around various posts regarding NBMR.4 entries, I remember coming across some text which noted that the Fiat G.222 was competing against an entry from Piaggio with the designation of RP.180 for the C-119 replacement. However I have yet to discover anything in regards to the Piaggio project. Does anyone out there know any more?

 

[hesham]

P-18 floatplane recce aircraft project,to compete IMAM Ro.43
P-19 ------?
P-20 floatplane recce aircraft project,to compete IMAM Ro.43

These two project are still a mystery ?,and more Info ?.

 

[Nico]

You are right,I fixed it.

Dear all,
during the never-ending (and fruitless) story of making order in my archives, I found some poor photos of section and three-view drawings of the Piaggio P.140 and P.141, together with some even more poorly typed sheets with some information I think interesting.
The P.140 is labelled as (I translate) Four-engined transport aircraft. The paper is dated Septmber 10, 1943, and the proof that the project is definitely post-war is in the selection of the power plant: four Bristol Hercules Series 630/639 rated at 1.715 HP at take-off; notwithstanding taht, the accompanying text reads: The aircraft is derived form the projects of the family of the wellknown military and civil four-engined aircraft built by Piaggio company.
Main specs are: max payload 12,000 kg; cargo doors for light trucks, bay doors for parachute launch; max range 2,500 km.
Other relevant specs: wingspan 37.00 m, lenght 30.00 m, height (on the ground) 10.50 m, wing area 144.00 sq. m, empty weight (equipped) 20,000 kg, max TO weight 33,000 kg. Estimated performance are: max speed 485 km(h at 2,700 m, cruise speed 350 km/h at 3,000 m.
The section labelled Image 1 shows a load of two Jeep and two light truck Dodge WC-52 and the retractable tail ramp.
Section of Image 2 is quite interesting as seems a SAR version with an A-3 light alloy boat and two dinghies for parachute launch from the belly bays.

The P.141 in the three-view drawing bears the same September 1948 date and is labelled Four.engined aircraft for passengera and freight transport.
The project is based on the P.108C but powered by four Pratt & Whitney R-1830-92 Twin Wasp S1C3-G, rated at 1,215 HP for Take-off.
Estimated specs are: wingspan 37.00 m, lenght 26.00 m, height 8.70 m, wing area 144.00 sq m, equipped empty weight with accomodation for 5 crews and 30 passengers, max TO weight 24,500 kg, max cruise speed 370 km/h.
As far as I can tell the P.140 and the P.141 remained on paper and were not even built as mock-ups.

 

[Nico]

I forget the pictures. Sorry