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On this (japanese ?) weblink : http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~can55330/craft/payen.htm


I found this little marvellous thing, a model of the Payen P.350CD : http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~can55330/craft/payen/16.jpg
 

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There is this weblink too about the Payen Pa-22 :

http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/june/aviation/payen.htm
 

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About the P.350CD, at the top of this weblink :

http://home.att.net/~dannysoar2/Payen2.htm


There is this drawing :

http://home.att.net/~dannysoar2/PayenColorNite3.jpg
 

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And one Pa-400 in color on this weblink : http://qmilj.tripod.com/jimsbalsadustpages/id13.html
 

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Hi

I found this about the Pa-46/6 (if somebody knows the japanese language it could be very helpful ;D) :


http://www.warbirds.jp/kakuki/schneider/bourrasque.htm

http://www.warbirds.jp/kakuki/schneider/paq.jpg


I would like to know from where the author knows the original drawing... :eek:
 

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Do you want to see a(n) (almost flying) Pa-100 model ?


http://osegouin.free.fr/cncnet/bibli/projets/payenpa100.phtml
 

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Do you want to build a paper P.350CD or a paper Pa-101 ? ;)


http://www10.ocn.ne.jp/~papiy/papergrider.html


http://www10.ocn.ne.jp/~papiy/payen_p350cd.pdf

http://www10.ocn.ne.jp/~papiy/payen_pa101.pdf
 

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As far, as I understood the site of the Musee Delta, they own a replica of the Pa.100.
Is this really a flyable aircraft (maybe just without official certification), or is it a model
in original size ? ???
 

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I saw this plane in the year 2000 in the musée delta (In Athis Mons, near the Paris-Orly airport) :)

It's a model in original size
 

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At the bottom of this page we can see that Unicraft models has models-projects for Payen's projects :) :

http://www.geocities.com/unicraftmodels/fut/futother/futother.htm
 

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Deltafan said:
Hi
I found this about the Pa-46/6 (if somebody knows the japanese language it could be very helpful ;D) :
http://www.warbirds.jp/kakuki/schneider/bourrasque.htm
http://www.warbirds.jp/kakuki/schneider/paq.jpg
I would like to know from where the author knows the original drawing... :eek:
"from where"? probably from their own mind & dreams... The warbirds/kakuki pages (so numerous) are one of my favourites for fantasy and nowadays' creation pretending to date from old years. Reading this with a smile, I love it, but if you take it seriously as History, you may be disappointed...
 

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Thanks Tophe. I red a great part of this japanese website after my post and i agree with you ;)
 

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The Payen-Melot Pa-22/1R project by Unicraft :

http://10.141.0.4/www.geocities.comm/unicraftmodels/on/pa22/pa22-box.jpg
 

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And the built model (near a Dewoitine fighter from this time) :)

http://10.141.0.2/img398.imageshack.uss/img398/5982/pa22ir43qz5.jpg

with other photos on this french site :

http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37776&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=50
 

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In this twin engined proposal, shown in AFM N°11, this guy
could have integrated a much more formidable armament ! ;D
 

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Thanks for your participation Jem :)

Alas, this plane is not available as a model, maybe in the future ;)
 

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"Alas, this plane is not available as a model, maybe in the future"

No excuses, please !
What we could do years ago in this scale, should be possible much better
today in a scale nearly 20 times larger ! ;D
 

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A flying model of the Pa-49 :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Top7yVJaIkQ
 

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Great, must be the Pa.49 as finished in 1952 with retractable landing gear ! ;)
 

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I am new to the forum, but have followed it for some time. Since the subject of Roland Payen came up, I thought I'd share some images of a 3D model I did in Google Sketchup 6 of the Payen PA 350 coup deutsch racer. While it never made it off the drawing board, it was a fascinating and provocative design with almost cartoonish proportions.

So, here are a few of the numerous images of the model that I produced. I hope they are enjoyed.

Some raw output from sketchup with textures & shading
Payen_p-350cd_right_qtr5.jpg

http://cid-d5bf2b4dbda6db1e.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Payen%7C_p-350cd%7C_right%7C_qtr5.jpg

Payen_p-350cd_right_qtr3.jpg

http://cid-d5bf2b4dbda6db1e.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Payen%7C_p-350cd%7C_right%7C_qtr3.jpg

Payen_p-350cd_w_ref.jpg

http://cid-d5bf2b4dbda6db1e.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Payen%7C_p-350cd%7C_w%7C_ref.jpg

Here are a couple of Raytraces using Kerkythea:
Payen_PA350cd_RightQtrProfile2.jpg

http://cid-d5bf2b4dbda6db1e.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Payen%7C_PA350cd%7C_RightQtrProfile2.jpg

Payen_PA350cd_RightRearQtr2.jpg

http://cid-d5bf2b4dbda6db1e.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Payen%7C_PA350cd%7C_RightRearQtr2.jpg

And last but not least, a raytrace with a background and some massaging in photoshop:
Payen_PA-350cd_lowRtQtr_1.jpg

http://cid-d5bf2b4dbda6db1e.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Payen%7C_PA-350cd%7C_lowRtQtr%7C_1.jpg

Cheers!
 

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Wonderful ! :eek:

Very great congratulations and very great thanks John :)
 

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Hi !


On this french website we can see an article with a short interview (1'05") of Roland Payen. Nothing new from M. Payen during the interview but we can see one unknown photo with a model of the SP.260 (10") and another one unknown photo with a drawing of the SP.230 (30").

http://thehighflight.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/aile-delta-et-roland-payen/
 

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Three-view drawing of Payen Pa.22

Source:
http://alternathistory.livejournal.com/306796.html
 

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Deltafan,

Thanks for posting that link.

"slava_trudu is truly a gifted artist. His creations look for all the world like miniaturized reality. In particular as they're usually done in '72nd scale!

Madoc
 

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A flying model of the Pa.22/1R (but with propeller and with two more wheels)

Unfortunally we cannot see the complete take off of the model (a previous model of the Pa.100 couldn't take off and showed that it was certainly very difficult for the real Pa.101 and the Pa.22/5). But the landing is perfect.

http://www.tvplayvideos.com/1,Uzeu-OafdDI/payen/RC-Payen-PA-22-1R
 

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Deltafan said:
A flying model of the Pa.22/1R (but with propeller and with two more wheels) ...

But those additional show up on several 3-views of the 22/1R, too and certainly would have
been mandatory for the real thing, too, as otherwise the needed angle of attack for taking off
couldn't have been achieved.
And the prop ? Well, it's not that long ago, that more or less all RC-"jets" still had a prop ... ;)
Nice to watch that video !
 

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Hi everybody,

A new website of the (reopened) Musee delta :

http://museedelta.wix.com/musee-delta

It seems more interactive (recent news...) than the old site :

http://museedelta.free.fr/
 

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I found this drawing today, about an hypothetical racer, derivative of the first Payen projects :
 

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