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This seems to be the model of the new Russian manned spaceship, that should be operational sometime beyond 2016. It will be developed without the EU (mainly financial) support and the much concrete development time schedule should be published in mid 2010.

Much interesting information comes from O. Parfjonov (RKK Energija) that the OKB Tupolev and RKK Energia are considering the building of the small shuttle, close to older one from NPO Molnija. It should be a miniature space shuttle with three external fuel tanks (oxygen, kerosene and hydrogen) that should start with the aircraft mothership. The mothership will transport it to 10 - 15 km where it (still the mothership) will fire the two rocket engines, that enable the whole complex to reach a few kilometers higher altitude where will take place the separation. It is designed for commercial use, it means space tourism, payload launching and repairs in space.
 

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Isn't that the TKS capsule from the old Almaz program?
 

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No, its clearly bigger. But the similarity is striking, nearly the same as in the Apollo/Orion case. But this was only a general model of "applied concept", not the final shape of the spaceship.
 

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some info on the Manned Transport Spacecraft, PTK
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/tks_followon.html

of Russia's new-generation PPTS spacecraft (was formerly ACTS Study)
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/acts.html
 

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PPTS/PTK NP CM full-scale mockup. Interior was designed by Energia together with CARDI industrial design studio that already took share in Ka-62 and Ka-226T design for Russian Helicopters





















photos (c) 2011 Flateric
 

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Interesting. The design seems to have docking ports either on the top or on the bottom (hatch through the heat shield, TKS style).
 

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Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Does this mean that they are abandoning the Soyuz with the orbital module approach?

There are clearly pluses and minuses to the Soyuz approach vs. the traditional American approach.
 

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THX for picture, flateric
it's nice the new PTK design and so spacious

blackstar said:
Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Does this mean that they are abandoning the Soyuz with the orbital module approach?

There are clearly pluses and minuses to the Soyuz approach vs. the traditional American approach.

Like on second picture: above the door and flag, the Coat of arms of Russia B)
i wonder if NASA will put on ORION aka MPCV, the great Seal of the United States also ? ::)
 

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Really cool mock-up, fine design and also supercool kazbek new version....

I also note some changes respect the first draft of drawing appeared during 2010, and I also wonder what could be the grey areas above the two pilot seats, additiona windows area? Storage area? Any other idea about that?
 

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Jeff2 said:
Interesting. The design seems to have docking ports either on the top or on the bottom (hatch through the heat shield, TKS style).
don't you clearly see where is docking port on mockup?
 

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THX again Flateric


by the way, landing concept of the PTK design, is still pure rocket system or now back parachute/retrorockets ?
 

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Uh, I wonder how this design will fare given the Russians are in a tizz due to their traditional launcher design scattering a *thankfully* un-crewed capsule across Siberia...
 

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seems that CARDI designers got main idea of Virgin Galactic animation w. Philippe Starck interiors well...skinny girls is a must!


 

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They need some kind of logo on their outfits. Maybe a Starfleet chevron.
 

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Orionblamblam said:
blackstar said:
They need some kind of logo on their outfits. Maybe a Starfleet chevron.
...As much as I hate to agree with Dwayne - damn, *twice* in one day? - it's pretty much considered "canon" that the Starfleet Chevron/Arrow is based on the red "Aleph" of NASA's "meatball" logo. On the other hand, the TOS Enterprise insignia had a really good retcon explanation in Federation, where the whole design is essentially a graphical representation of the Cochrane Warp Equation, and considering that the authors wound up as executive story editors and co-producers on the fourth season of Enterprise, there are some fans - including some of the Big Name variety - who feel that this particular origin for the insignia has "earned it's right" to be considered somewhat canon.

...On a side note, one of the problems Trek fans have pointed out over the years is that by retconning/redefining the TOS Enterprise insignia as the "official Starfleet insignia" that every member of Starfleet wears regardless of what ship they serve on, Paranoidmount has rather stupidly given up a potential line of merchandising; ergo, if every starship has it's own insignia, as originally was the case when TOS was in production, then every time the Enterprise encountered another Federation starship, a new insignia would be created and thus marketable to the fans. While Paranoidmount's merchandising arm has never been blessed with foresight, much less common sense, this one was really a blunder from a marketing standpoint.
 

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Industrial designer Vladimir Pirozhkov (Citroёn Xsantia X2, C5 interiors, C3 Lumiere, C3 Air, C6 Lignage, C4 Volcane concepts, Xsara restyling; Toyota Yaris, Auris, Corolla, Avensis and MTRC и UUV concepts. Sukhou SuperJet-100 livery) of PPTS interior design study
http://www.designet.ru/events/designnews/?id=45142
 

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flateric said:
Industrial designer Vladimir Pirozhkov (Citroёn Xsantia X2, C5 interiors, C3 Lumiere, C3 Air, C6 Lignage, C4 Volcane concepts, Xsara restyling; Toyota Yaris, Auris, Corolla, Avensis and MTRC и UUV concepts. Sukhou SuperJet-100 livery) of PPTS interior design study
http://www.designet.ru/events/designnews/?id=45142
Is there a reason why you didn't attach the images?
 

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Continuing their work on the next-generation manned spacecraft, PTK NP (a.k.a. PPTS), Russian engineers steered the project toward emerging new destinations in space and adapted the future ship to the changing fleet of future rockets. As partners in the International Space Station program eyed a return to the Moon and missions to the Lagrange points, developers of the PTK NP vehicle focused on deep-space destinations.
 
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