New North Korean ballistic missiles

7700km apogee... Isn't a ballistic missile apogee roughly equal to its range?
Range is higher than apogee, basic estimate is that its post-boost speed is near-orbital and it should have a global range with the specific Bus+Reentry Vehicle used for this and if it was flown on a very low trajectory. It's safe to assume it has a decent payload to a 14,000 km range.
 
Exits could be made multiple, camouflaged and fake ones constructed in large numbers. And since this missile is solid-fuel, it's launch time is quite rapid. It's not perfect, of course, but it guarantee North Korean ICBM's much better survivability, than silo-based missiles would have in the same situation.
True, but if the NKs are willing to move a bunch of large machinery for pretending to construct fake ones then it's quite worthy
 
True, but if the NKs are willing to move a bunch of large machinery for pretending to construct fake ones then it's quite worthy
They have whole towns that are Potemkin Villages... making fake exits is definitely within their previous behavior.

That said, I think these would take enough work to make a believable fake that it's just as much effort to simply make real alternate launch sites.
 
Blind unfinished exits(to be opened in emergency) with literally no outside signs are a basic feature in building such underground road systems.
 
Reuters reporting the North Korean short range ballistic missiles, K-23, K-23A and K-24, with ranges of up to 500 miles/800km and a large warhead of one tonne, Ukraine saying current accuracy has improved markedly and dangerously from 1- 3km to 50 to 100 meters, it currently out range the US Army 500km PrSM until the planned 1000km Increment 4 comes online in 2030?

 
 
North Korea Military Hardware Exhibition 'Defence Development 2025' Opens
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One of the DPRKs iskander inspired missiles but now sporting a new hypersonic glider
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Also some new cruise missiles,the 2nd one from the bottom looks like the dprk version of the ss-n-27
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North Korea Military Hardware Exhibition 'Defence Development 2025' Opens
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One of the DPRKs iskander inspired missiles but now sporting a new hypersonic glider
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Also some new cruise missiles,the 2nd one from the bottom looks like the dprk version of the ss-n-27
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The Hypersonic Glider is on a Hwasong-11c missile.
 
I dunno. I mean, yes, the US was looking at road-mobile ICBM with Midgetman, but I think the US has generally abandoned the concept of an ICBM on a TEL.
Rather unfortunately so, the US has the kind of geographical depth that lends itself to dispersed TEL operations.

Also these neat ICBM trains the Soviets had at one point. It's entirely possible to hit every airfield with strategic bombers, but not to hit every trainstation.
 
Rather unfortunately so, the US has the kind of geographical depth that lends itself to dispersed TEL operations.
The US also has a lot more rural population that might be inclined to interfere with TELs. And laws that make it a lot harder for the defending troops to respond with as much force as the Marines did for the USN.



Also these neat ICBM trains the Soviets had at one point. It's entirely possible to hit every airfield with strategic bombers, but not to hit every trainstation.
Problem is that the US has been divesting from rails and prioritizing heavy trucks since the 1970s. There's very few railway right-of-ways running across the country, or even running up either coast.
 
I dunno. I mean, yes, the US was looking at road-mobile ICBM with Midgetman, but I think the US has generally abandoned the concept of an ICBM on a TEL.
Those aren't really road mobile in full sense, they're more like original China style "Anzio Annies", mostly for developed infrastructure (underground).
China only later went into road and then crossroad mobile launchers.
Soviets were always light crossroads types.

This is also a yet another clear first type, with heavy ICBM. Though launcher continues to evolve(now almost all axis are active)
 
General Secretary Kim Jong Un visited key military munitions industry facilities to assess actual missile and artillery shell production in the fourth quarter. He pointed out plans to establish new munitions industry units to be decided at the upcoming 9th Party Congress to meet future demand for missile and artillery forces, and called for continuous modernization of existing factories’ production structures to make them more efficient and practical.

 
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N. Korea flexes nuclear-capable rocket launcher ahead of key congress​

 
North Korea is not rich enough to mass-produce anything but very best. They want their money spent on best deterrence they could achieve.

North Korea does not lake decisions other countries may consider rational. How they rant their calories spent differs from other countries.

All show, not so much “go”
 
DPRK is the perfect example of peace through superior firepower meme. No doubt they are watching with GREAT interest the war in ME and specifically the failure of the american/'israeli' missile defences, and adapting their missile designs and CONOPS accordingly. So if the new engine allows for a 10 or more MIRVs ICBM, just ten missiles means 100 plus warheads/decoys. Good luck stopping them all. Which of course means DPRK's MAD capability becomes that much more resilient.
 
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North Korea does not lake decisions other countries may consider rational. How they rant their calories spent differs from other countries.
Actually, from the current point of view, the North Korea government is probably one of the most rational and responsible around. They set pragmatic goals within their capbilities and set a paths to achieve that goals. They wanted reliable nuclear deterrence - and in modern world, with two major wars already burning, who could say that their goal isn't rational?
 
Actually, from the current point of view, the North Korea government is probably one of the most rational and responsible around. They set pragmatic goals within their capbilities and set a paths to achieve that goals. They wanted reliable nuclear deterrence - and in modern world, with two major wars already burning, who could say that their goal isn't rational?
Except that the Norks have sworn to become the sole government of Korea. And will use nukes to achieve that.
 
Except that the Norks have sworn to become the sole government of Korea. And will use nukes to achieve that.
Except this is absolutely formal declaration (incidentally, the South declare themselves a sole legitimate govenment of Korea also), which they have absolutely zero desire to do anything with.
 
I don't really think North Korea will give up reunification; it's just that the time for reunification hasn't come yet. However, I am sure that throwing nuclear bombs at South Korea would definitely not be conducive to reunification.

But you have to admit, North Korea has done very well in missile development.
 
All we can hope for is a normalization of relations between the two.
 
I don't really think North Korea will give up reunification; it's just that the time for reunification hasn't come yet. However, I am sure that throwing nuclear bombs at South Korea would definitely not be conducive to reunification.

But you have to admit, North Korea has done very well in missile development.
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The leaps they`ve made in both liquid & solid fuel is very impressive.
Its hard to believe it was only 14 years ago that the first dprk icbm prototype made its debut.
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