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Has anybody more view from these:
 

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Slightly distorted proportions ..., the original study of two motor
over the past year, much thicker/fatten )))
1-3)- I-260

Single-engine versions of the MiG-9:
4)- I-305 (FL) engineTR-1A by A.Lyulka (1500)
5)- I-320 (FN) engine Nene I (RD-45)
sources: Airplane of the world
I. Sultanov "First soviet jet plane"
R.Belyakov. J.Marmen "MiG 1939-1995"
drawings I.Sultanov
 

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I've never seen those twin-engine studies before. I always thought the MiG-9 was a stubby-looking thing. The two engines give it a more elegant look, almost like a Russian Meteor.
 

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Hi Borovick
Could you give us more info about the I 260.
i never see something about this study !
In Belyakov -Marmain book, in chapter "I 300"
only some words to speak of this project
Thanks and bye
 

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Jschmus said:
I've never seen those twin-engine studies before. I always thought the MiG-9 was a stubby-looking thing. The two engines give it a more elegant look, almost like a Russian Meteor.

like a Russian Me-262 ;D
 

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Zizi6785 said:
like a Russian Me-262 ;D
Yes, Stalin didn't want copies of German jet fighters. Same fate had also the early SU-9.

The I-320 (FN) looks similar to the Lavochkin La-150, but which had a a shoulder-mounted wing.
 

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From the Soviet fighter aircraft designed for the scheme should be added:
Lavochkin project "160" is the first with this name,
several projects Alekseyev's: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5360.0 ,
and the future/pre Su-9 - Project "L" by Sukhoi.

Comparable 2:
 

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toura said:
Hi Borovick
Could you give us more info about the I 260.
i never see something about this study !
Thanks and bye
Hi Toura
I-260, serial code "K"; design byuro/OKB-155 (May 1945)
Engines 2 x BMW-003
Armament: 1 x N-37 (37mm)
2 x HC-23 (23mm)
Experienced copy should be ready by 31 August 1945, but in June of all the priorities were
given another version of a fighter named I-300 and the code "F".
In OKB felt the best to increase the midship fuselage, moving into it, both the engine, but left wing
aerodynamically "clean".
 

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borovik said:
From the Soviet fighter aircraft designed for the scheme should be added:
Lavochkin project "160" is the first with this name,
several projects Alekseyev's: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5360.0 ,
and the future/pre Su-9 - Project "L" by Sukhoi.

Thanks Borovik!

Have you got 3-view from Sukhoi "L"?
 

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hi Borovik
Thanks for your prompt detailed answer.
But, now I see that Lavochkin has the same way to go
to the single engined la 160 !
Thanks
 

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Many thanks Borovik,

This an excellent contribution..
 

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Just a little game!!!

Yak versions with two engines:
 

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JUST A LITTLE GAME....
If I have to choice the upper view is "Yakovlev" with
the tail of the Yak 3
But !!??
 

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Is there any particular reason that Stalin did not want aircraft that looked German? Any plane designed with two engines outboard of the fuselage will look like a Me-262!

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Stalin's brain was a very complex device.
 

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I think it's ironic that Stalin didn't like the Su-9 because it looked like the Me 262, but he didn't mind having a bomber that looked like the B-29.



fishjay said:
Is there any particular reason that Stalin did not want aircraft that looked German? Any plane designed with two engines outboard of the fuselage will look like a Me-262!

Fishjay (Lester)
 

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fishjay said:
Any plane designed with two engines outboard of the fuselage will look like a Me-262!

Fishjay (Lester)

The fact that they were Jumo004 derivatives probably had some effect as well.
 

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borovik said:
From the Soviet fighter aircraft designed for the scheme should be added:
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and the future/pre Su-9 - Project "L" by Sukhoi.

Hi Borovik,

have you got a 3-view drawing from Sukhoi "L"?
Thanks!

My color sideview from early MiG-9 I-260:
 

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Zizi6785 said:
have you got a 3-view drawing from Sukhoi "L"?

In the appendix an 3-view drawing of the project Sukhoi L.
(Source: ПРОКЛОВ, В.: Су-9, Cu-11 и советский Ме-262. Авиация и Космонавтика 2005, 4, 27 – 41.)
It is the only previously known 3-view drawing of this project. The quality is poor. The drawing shows some contradictions to the photos of the mockup.
 

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I-260 from different source of drawing.
 

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for political reasons that needed agreement by Mikoyan the politician , the career of Mikoyan the designer was given a boost and ı would say Pavel Sukhoi was a valuable enough to be given a false reason instead of being shot
 

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Work in progress Su-L:
 

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Hi,


here is some MiG-9 variants,I-301 (FS),I-301T (FT),MiG-9M and I-302 FL.
 

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Screencaps from the Soviet film "Im pokoryayetsya nebo"

I-260 design study
 

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More pictures:
 

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This pics are not the work by Zizi, they come from the game World of Warplane.
 

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