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hesham

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Hi,

does anyone hear about the development of MiG-31 to be use
in satellite launch aircraft ?.
 

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On June 12 chief of Kazakhstan Aerospace Agency, ex-cosmonaut Talgat Musabayev, offered to Kazakhstan government to move out of Ishim project due to weak marketing studies and unability to move on the space launch market. Effectively, this so far means death of Ishim, as Kazakhstan should finance it.
 

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There have been rumors that this system might be related to the MiG-31D's ASAT vehicle; the MiG-31D certainly helped pave the way for this concept at any rate.
 

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One hardly would say something about this. -31D (Article "07") stuff stays higly classified.
May be Paralay can add on. Oh, I haven't seen this photo yet...
 

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Rumors over here hotly discussed at Novosti Kosmonavtiki forum in MiG-31I thread.
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3050&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=360

Stated that MiG pilots Menitzky, Aubakirov and Fastovetz performed more than 100 launches of ASAT missile from MiG-31D at Sary-Shagan during 1987-1991 test program according to Menitzky's interview with Vadim Lukashevich. Both were not drunk.
Ishim said to be cover-up either double-use technology program for future development of ASAT missile, Kazakhstan step out said be part of cover up. In fact, do not understand why Kazakhstan desperately needs ASAT missile...
Soviet ASAT program based on E-155N carrier (another MiG-25 variant) said to be started as early as beginning of 60s on direct supervising by Mikoyan, with Spiral ("50x50") being in part inspired by it in 1965.
 

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Before it's totally gone into the depth of history...
 

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From; МиГ-31 Непревзойденный истребитель-перехватчик

here is a MiG-31I and artist drawing to MiG-31S,but I can't ID if this version for the
same subject here or not ?.
 

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Hmmm…

The first openlit Mig-31 air launcher study I am aware of dates back to 1998. It was issued by MAI, and AirFleet published one or more articles on this "application" at the time.

As it drew attention, I also remember a joint study in around 2000-2002 which involved MAI (Moscow Aviation State University) and USM (University Sains Malaysia). This study focussed on using a modified Mig-31 combined with a rocket sat launcher called MICRO. The whole study was named ABSL. It ended up in a Master's thesis by Kamal Adnan, and in a series of lectures.

Among others, you may access:

AIRCRAFT-BASED SATELLITE LAUNCHING (ABSL) SYSTEM – FUTURE SPACE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM
Muhammad Shamsul Kamal Adnan & Md. Azlin Md. Said
School of Aerospace Engineering, Engineering Campus, Universiti Sains Malaysia
14300, Nibong Tebal, Penang. Tel: 04-5937788 ext 6513 / Fax: 04-5941026
https://www.dlr.de/iaa.symp/Portaldata/49/Resources/dokumente/archiv5/0810P_Kama_Adnan.pdf

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flateric said:
One hardly would say something about this. -31D (Article "07") stuff stays higly classified.
May be Paralay can add on. Oh, I haven't seen this photo yet...

Additional contextual info (winglets added for stability).
(Image names unchanged from web search.)

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This looks interesting.

 

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Yikes. If they wanted to give their Mig-31 fleet ALBM capability that could get nasty.
 

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Another image ...
 

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Looks huge for an ASAT. (Unless it can reach up REALLY high. ASM-135 could reach about 600 miles up IIRC.)
 

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It looks like between 1/3 and 1/2 the length of the Mig-31 itself - 23 m long, so between 8 m and 12 m. Pretty huge by missile standards indeed.
 

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ALBM seems unlikely, the nose cone doesn't look right for a reentry vehicle and there seems to be no good reason not to simply leave it exposed. Unless there is in fact more than one, of course, but as big as that thing is, it doesn't seem to be big enough for a sensible MIRV platform? And anyway, isn't an ALBM basically what Kinzhal already is?

That leaves ABM/ASAT, mini-SLV or some sort of boosted hypersonics test bed, as TomcatViP suggested. The size and configuration match the SLV concept shown in earlier posts in this thread, so chances are that's what it is.
 

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It could be a satellite launch vehicle - that'd be a pretty standard application.

Or, it could be a super-sized ASAT which can reach higher (much higher?) than low earth orbit.

Of course, the answer probably is "why not both?"
 

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From AvWeek:

"The characteristics of the current system remain unknown. But they are probably similar to those of the previous Kontakt system, which was intended to destroy nonmaneuvering or maneuvering satellites in low orbits.
The 79M6 missile, weighing 4,550 kg (10,000 lb.), was launched by a MiG-31D flying at a speed of Mach 2.55 and altitude of 22 km. "


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sferrin said:
From AvWeek:

"The characteristics of the current system remain unknown. But they are probably similar to those of the previous Kontakt system, which was intended to destroy nonmaneuvering or maneuvering satellites in low orbits.
The 79M6 missile, weighing 4,550 kg (10,000 lb.), was launched by a MiG-31D flying at a speed of Mach 2.55 and altitude of 22 km. "


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Thx. Interesting. What is the exact source, please?

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antigravite said:
sferrin said:
From AvWeek:

"The characteristics of the current system remain unknown. But they are probably similar to those of the previous Kontakt system, which was intended to destroy nonmaneuvering or maneuvering satellites in low orbits.
The 79M6 missile, weighing 4,550 kg (10,000 lb.), was launched by a MiG-31D flying at a speed of Mach 2.55 and altitude of 22 km. "


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Thx. Interesting. What is the exact source, please?

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Aviation Week. 10/08/2018.
 

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