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Who remember Top-Gun with Tom Cruise ?
And the Northrop F-5 in the role of fictional Mig-28 ! B)
 

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airman said:
Who remember Top-Gun with Tom Cruise ?
And the Northrop F-5 in the role of fictional Mig-28 ! B)

We all do.

Being it was so obvious they were F-5s and T-38s.

As well, cause an "even" number would not be assigned to a fighter. And, why would a Soviet fighter carry a French missile?
 

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SaturnCanuck said:
airman said:
Who remember Top-Gun with Tom Cruise ?
And the Northrop F-5 in the role of fictional Mig-28 ! B)

We all do.

Being it was so obvious they were F-5s and T-38s.

As well, cause an "even" number would not be assigned to a fighter. And, why would a Soviet fighter carry a French missile?
Because in the Top Gun reality, there is still a Franco-Soviet Treaty of Mutual Assistance? :p

I admit, that was a long-shot. :-\
 

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"Because in the Top Gun reality, there is still a Franco-Soviet Treaty of Mutual Assistance?"

Ah yes, the same reality where Tom Cruise can be"... goin' Mach 2 with your hair on fire" (or close enough) - gosh, real Naval Aviator talk!
 

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I like the part at the beginning where he's inverted flipping off the MiG-28 pilot with his canopy only two feet away, and somehow, they're vertical stabilizers, which are much taller than two feet, didn't happen to hit each others aircraft. It was embarrassing.

I can only recall two Hollywood movies where I could even take the flying somewhat seriously. Those were The Blue Max and The Adventures of Waldo Pepper, or whatever the title was where Robert Redford was a barnstormer.
 

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Vpanoptes said:
"Because in the Top Gun reality, there is still a Franco-Soviet Treaty of Mutual Assistance?"

Ah yes, the same reality where Tom Cruise can be"... goin' Mach 2 with your hair on fire" (or close enough) - gosh, real Naval Aviator talk!
:D
 

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Sundog said:
I like the part at the beginning where he's inverted flipping off the MiG-28 pilot with his canopy only two feet away, and somehow, they're vertical stabilizers, which are much taller than two feet, didn't happen to hit each others aircraft. It was embarrassing.

I can only recall two Hollywood movies where I could even take the flying somewhat seriously. Those were The Blue Max and The Adventures of Waldo Pepper, or whatever the title was where Robert Redford was a barnstormer.
I have The Blue Max, Flying Leathernecks (with John Wayne, WWII, Pacific), Otoko-Tachi No Yamato (WWII, Pacific) and Flyboys (WWI) on DVD, haven't seen them yet though. Will buy Tora! Tora! Tora! some time, to cleanse away the memory of Pearl Harbour. :-\
 

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Sundog said:
I like the part at the beginning where he's inverted flipping off the MiG-28 pilot with his canopy only two feet away, and somehow, they're vertical stabilizers, which are much taller than two feet, didn't happen to hit each others aircraft. It was embarrassing.

I can only recall two Hollywood movies where I could even take the flying somewhat seriously. Those were The Blue Max and The Adventures of Waldo Pepper, or whatever the title was where Robert Redford was a barnstormer.

The title is The Great Waldo Pepper.
 

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Hammer Birchgrove said:
SaturnCanuck said:
airman said:
Who remember Top-Gun with Tom Cruise ?
And the Northrop F-5 in the role of fictional Mig-28 ! B)

We all do.

Being it was so obvious they were F-5s and T-38s.

As well, cause an "even" number would not be assigned to a fighter. And, why would a Soviet fighter carry a French missile?
Because in the Top Gun reality, there is still a Franco-Soviet Treaty of Mutual Assistance? :p

I admit, that was a long-shot. :-\

Funny.....

Oh, and besides, there is no TOP GUN trophy anyway
 

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Sundog said:
I like the part at the beginning where he's inverted flipping off the MiG-28 pilot with his canopy only two feet away, and somehow, they're vertical stabilizers, which are much taller than two feet, didn't happen to hit each others aircraft. It was embarrassing.

I can only recall two Hollywood movies where I could even take the flying somewhat seriously. Those were The Blue Max and The Adventures of Waldo Pepper, or whatever the title was where Robert Redford was a barnstormer.

The Bridges at Toko-Ri. See http://thanlont.blogspot.com/2008/11/most-accurate-aviation-movie-ever.html
 

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Hammer Birchgrove said:
Sundog said:
I like the part at the beginning where he's inverted flipping off the MiG-28 pilot with his canopy only two feet away, and somehow, they're vertical stabilizers, which are much taller than two feet, didn't happen to hit each others aircraft. It was embarrassing.

I can only recall two Hollywood movies where I could even take the flying somewhat seriously. Those were The Blue Max and The Adventures of Waldo Pepper, or whatever the title was where Robert Redford was a barnstormer.
I have The Blue Max, Flying Leathernecks (with John Wayne, WWII, Pacific), Otoko-Tachi No Yamato (WWII, Pacific) and Flyboys (WWI) on DVD, haven't seen them yet though. Will buy Tora! Tora! Tora! some time, to cleanse away the memory of Pearl Harbour. :-\

I have Otokotachi no Yamato too, you won't see a lot of aircraft focus in it. Pretty much all you'll see are CG Avengers doing torpedo and bomb (yes, bomb) runs on Yamato. On the other hand, there is a whole lot of ship porn in it. All in all, I enjoyed it quite a bit, especially since it had a favorite actor of mine, Nakamura Shido.

The newer Red Baron flick from a couple years ago was a lot of fun to watch too.
 

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Talos said:
Hammer Birchgrove said:
Sundog said:
I like the part at the beginning where he's inverted flipping off the MiG-28 pilot with his canopy only two feet away, and somehow, they're vertical stabilizers, which are much taller than two feet, didn't happen to hit each others aircraft. It was embarrassing.

I can only recall two Hollywood movies where I could even take the flying somewhat seriously. Those were The Blue Max and The Adventures of Waldo Pepper, or whatever the title was where Robert Redford was a barnstormer.
I have The Blue Max, Flying Leathernecks (with John Wayne, WWII, Pacific), Otoko-Tachi No Yamato (WWII, Pacific) and Flyboys (WWI) on DVD, haven't seen them yet though. Will buy Tora! Tora! Tora! some time, to cleanse away the memory of Pearl Harbour. :-\

I have Otokotachi no Yamato too, you won't see a lot of aircraft focus in it. Pretty much all you'll see are CG Avengers doing torpedo and bomb (yes, bomb) runs on Yamato. On the other hand, there is a whole lot of ship porn in it. All in all, I enjoyed it quite a bit, especially since it had a favorite actor of mine, Nakamura Shido.

The newer Red Baron flick from a couple years ago was a lot of fun to watch too.

Don't forget about "The Battle of Britain", some excellent air-to-air stuff there, and "Catch-22". Not a great movie, but the footage of these wonderful B-25s is exceptional.
 

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What is the basis for the Russians never assigning even numbers to fighters anyway?
 

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Tailspin Turtle said:
Sundog said:
I like the part at the beginning where he's inverted flipping off the MiG-28 pilot with his canopy only two feet away, and somehow, they're vertical stabilizers, which are much taller than two feet, didn't happen to hit each others aircraft. It was embarrassing.

I can only recall two Hollywood movies where I could even take the flying somewhat seriously. Those were The Blue Max and The Adventures of Waldo Pepper, or whatever the title was where Robert Redford was a barnstormer.

The Bridges at Toko-Ri. See http://thanlont.blogspot.com/2008/11/most-accurate-aviation-movie-ever.html
There's also a similar movie called 'Men of the fighting lady' starring Van Johnson, 'The Hunters' starring Robert Mitchum and of course 'Strategic Air Command' starring James Stewart.
 

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Colonial-Marine said:
What is the basis for the Russians never assigning even numbers to fighters anyway?

In the "former" OKB designation system, odd numbers were assigned to fighters while even numbers were all other aircraft.
 

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I watched an episode of Magnum P.I. today, which had a Russian defector landing in Hawaii with a "MiG-30" in the beginning of the story. The MiG-30 was really a F-4 Phantom II painted with camouflage colours and Red stars. Which wouldn't be so bad for a TV-episode apart from that the American fighters that intercepted it were also Phantom II. A kid could see that the aircrafts were similar. :D
 

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How about the B-52 in Dr Strangelove? Although I don't know this for a fact I understand that Kubrick recreated the interior from "open source materials" that very much surprised military intelligence with its accuracy.
 

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bobbymike said:
How about the B-52 in Dr Strangelove? Although I don't know this for a fact I understand that Kubrick recreated the interior from "open source materials" that very much surprised military intelligence with its accuracy.
"Hollywood" can occasionally "get-it-right" depending a LOT on factors that go above and beyond simple reasons. Point-of-fact "they" can get it SO right as to "scare" the pants off the DoD and politicians at times...

The "Dr. Strangelove" incident is of course one, but perhaps the MOST famous is "Red Dawn"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087985/

The film got so much "Soviet" equipment so "right" there were numerous delays and transportation issues due to demands to know where the movie was getting all it's "equipment" from there were genuine fears that the movie would be shut down due to national security issues :)

(On the up-side for the management company they were then given several contracts to construct similar equipment for Op-For use by the US military :)

It is however, very sad that Hollywood as a whole gets so much so wrong more on average than getting anything actually 'right'...

Randy
 

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My favorite was the episode of "Supercarrier" involving a defecting Soviet pilot in a, conveniently enough, carrier-capable stealth fighter. But ISTR it was footage of an F-16 portraying the Soviet plane. Even at age 10, I called BS on that one.
 

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Oh you wanna talk about IRON EAGLE movies, how's about part 3 when the portrayed Rutan's ARES demonstrator as the "Me-263"? That was a good laugh right there.
 

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How about "Blue Thunder" where Roy Scheider (actor from Jaws) blows the wing off a pursuing f-16 with his blue thunder helicopter (modified French Gazelle helicopter) sporting a 20mm vulcan gatling gun cannon. That was cool.
 

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When I worked in Angola in 1987, the locals referred to Angolan Air Force Floggers as MiG 24s, so it's not just in the movies.

Chris
 

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Now that's interesting. Which model?

Chris
 

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