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Helo, i did a search and found a lot of interesting Su-47 pictures, but if someone got more rare ones, i will appriciate. :)
Same goes with MiG - 1.44.

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The best thing for you: http://www.amazon.com/Sukhoi-S-37-Mikoyan-Fifth-Generation-Demonstrators/dp/1857801202/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206096384&sr=8-1
 

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Hello Matej, i actully have that book. But you know, i cant get enough of Berkut and MiG 1.44. And that book was realesed in 2001, so it is 7 years old. In that time it should be more and newer pictures of especily berkut...So if someone have, post it here! ;D
 

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These are pretty old pics from 1.44 roll-out
 

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Thanks, have most of them, only couple that i didnt have. :)
 

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The jet in the pictures above is labeled Bort 01. Does anyone know if it was numbered Bort 144 before or after it flew?
 

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SOC said:
The jet in the pictures above is labeled Bort 01. Does anyone know if it was numbered Bort 144 before or after it flew?

I have never seen it with flag russian flag on fin, and 144 bort number.
 

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...and now you can. '144' and tricolor was added after first flight, maiden flight was with '01' number at intake
 

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Oh, thanks, never seen those before! Do you know where plane is now, or when pictures with 144 bort was taken? What year. (i understand that they were taken after first flight)
 

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Here is an image of the mockup of the MiG 1.42/1.44 from Hightechweb.com. Hope you enjoy the pic.
 

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It isn't mock up. But MiG-1.44 prototype itself. During early 90's. 94 iirc?
 

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It is one of the three photos that were made public from the experimental construction hangar at MiG showing the 1.44 prototype. And it is not "Hightechweb.com" but hitechweb.genezis.eu
 

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The most important: customer (in other words money)
Partial reasons: engine development problems (AL-41F), collapse of the Soviet Union, different post cold war requirements, strong position of the Sukhoi OKB....
 

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Are there any good photos of this jet in flight? All I see are the grainy video stills. Also - anyone know how many flights it made?

thanks!
 

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InvisibleDefender said:
Are there any good photos of this jet in flight?
If they ever were, no one was published. Judging from quality of video, no one bothered too much to fix that historical moment in high quality.

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Also - anyone know how many flights it made?
two
 

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I like the 1.44 a lot. Flateric, is there a page or a document that would explain in simple words, and with 3-view plans if possible, the differences between the MiG 1.42 and the 1.44? I tend to get confused between the two! Thanks in advance.
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
I like the 1.44 a lot. Flateric, is there a page or a document that would explain in simple words, and with 3-view plans if possible, the differences between the MiG 1.42 and the 1.44? I tend to get confused between the two! Thanks in advance.
I second the request. I'm thinking of building a 1/72 model of the 1.42 using the modified Zvezda model kit of the 1.44, and such plans, and(I'm dreaming now) perhaps overlaid top and side views of both designs would certainly come in handy.
 

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But to do it, someone must declassify 1.42...and fact that 1.44 was not allowed for static display at MAKS since 1999 in spite of MiG numerous requests to MoD, this doesn't bring much of optimism.
 

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flateric said:
But to do it, someone must declassify 1.42...and fact that 1.44 was not allowed for static display at MAKS since 1999 in spite of MiG numerous requests to MoD, this doesn't bring much of optimism.
Is it still classified? Paralay features a comparison of top and side views of the two designs, but it's anybody's guess how accurate/ to scale these are. At any rate, the 1.42 seems slightly bigger, with a wedge intake and different wing outline:
 

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Lets call it expected differences, not the officially confirmed ones. MiG 1.42, it means supposed serial configuration should have compared to the MiG 1.44 demonstrator: two angles on the wing's leading edge, different shape of the vertical tail surfaces, wedge-shaped air intake, refueling probe, circular shape of the front radome, much blended and clear fuselage and other small details like the optimised service doors, antennas, chaff and flare dispensers, towed decoys, maybe the provision for the flushed AAMs around the air intake like the Eurofighter and so.

Since it is very likely, that the MiG submission for the PAK FA was based on the MFI, this can be reason why it is still so classified.
 

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Well, there was something unclassified that represents the real shape of the 1.42 - http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,422.msg28796.html#msg28796
 

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Hello!

More pics at good resolution:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8982/mfi1.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3799/mfi2.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2273/mfi3.jpg

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5055/mfi4.jpg

;)
 

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Did anyone get the accurate number of I.44's size?
If you search internet via google, 19, 20, 21.7 even 22meter will be found at variant forum and website.
 

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It's almost sad to see that thing like that. I wonder what happened to the Su-47. Is that thing parked on display like that too?
 

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I wonder what happened to the Su-47.
the same...it wil barely fly again...
top photo taken during last MAKS by Marina Lystceva
 

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What Su-27 airframe is that seen besides the S-47 ?? ... is it the one with these boxy engine-exhausts ??

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yes. LL-UV(PS)
 

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It's really interesting how these projects in Russia always end up being nothing more than tech demonstrators that end up being placed in a pseudo-boneyard to be forgotten.
 

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1.44 is being advertised as one of static exposition aircraft at official MAKS 2015 Facebook page
Only thing I'm worrying about is that they will decide to 'refresh that old paint'
 

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Hallelujah! P-42 was rumored to be displayed too, hopefully they are able to drag it out to... And while i am being greedy, the holy grail, Su-47...
 

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https://youtu.be/BBB33mzgwfk?t=4m30s

Some of the performance numbers given during MAKS 2015. I'm a bit skeptical about the claims though. 3180 km/h (roughly Mach 3) max speed?
 

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More interesting to me is the dimensions - 11.9m wingspan, 17.3m length? Thats MiG-29 size. Seems... wrong?
 

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