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Actually there is a concept aircraft in the Army Aviation Museum warehouse. I suppose you are correct that it is actually not VTOL but rather ESTOL Extremely STOL or SSTOL Super STOL (good luck defining those), in that it had a very short TO run ~50ft.

As to the MC-130 I do not have any info on them putting new flaps on the aircraft. I do know that they used forward and rear mounted JATO bottles to get the extreme short field capability. The test aircraft crashed when the forward facing bottles were fired while the aircraft was still in the air and it had a very hard landing. Indeed this very circumstance is what brought about the V-22 program, from an experimental demonstrator (XV-15) to a full up program. The need to bridge the gap between helicopter (VTOL) and fixed wing (Speed) for these sorts of missions was found desirable.
 

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Hi Yasotay,

do you mean by MC-130,model-130 ?.
 

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I was referring to the version of the MC-130 Hercules the (YMC-130h) that was specially developed for the Iranian rescue mission. The aircraft in the picture below.
 

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Yeah Credible Sport. Could not recall the project name.

Not sure that is what FireFly was referring too.
 

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Operation "CREDIBLE SPORT" Read at Wiki for More Info about Plane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credible_Sport

other names of Prototype
SUPER STOL PROGRAM
PROJECT MAX
XSC-130 H
YMC-130 H
YSC-130 H

showimage.php



here You tube video

that shows wat happen with First Prototype on frist flight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YOtm9UCQEc

Autsch....
 

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Ref: The modified C-130 for Iranian Rescue

Folks,

During WW2 the Germans tested a modified DFS-230 assault glider with two rockets in the nose and a braking parachute. The braking rocket concept was never used in combat, though the braking parachute concept was used in the rescue of Mussolini. Also the Germans tested an auto-gyro version of the DFS-230 for vertical assault landings -- ie there were no main wings, just the rotor.

Finally, the whole Iranian Hostage Crisis was 100% proof that either the US Army or the USAF should have purchased the French Breguet 941. With its super STOL performance (without all the bells and whistles that other large STOL aircraft used to achieve the desired results) and short wing span, some braking rockets and take off rockets could have probably got it to land and take off in the distance required for the stadium.

Jack E. Hammond
 

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New to me, at any rate, posted to Youtube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fSFjhWw4DNo

I've posted some of the more interesting frames here:

http://up-ship.com/blog/
 

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that super STOL C-130 for the Iranian hostage crisis rescue program

this new video is very clear, cool
here the a older bad quality video on this mishap

[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YOtm9UCQEc[/flash]
 

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KJ_Lesnick said:
Wow, that's pretty impressive.

Well, yes.....in a sort of "OMG, we're all gonna DIE!" kind of way ;)

Regards,

Thomas L. Nielsen
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Anyone know the cause of the accident? (Yes I KNOW that stopping while still like 30 feet in the air could be considered the overall "cause" that's not what I mean :) ) Was it a malfunction or did someone hit the switch early?

Randy
 

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That aircraft leaving Tehran seemingly straight up with those rockets firing would have been proof positive to the Mullahs that they were dealing with the "Great Satan"
 

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Praetorian Starship actually has good information on CREDIBLE SPORT:
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA421975
(it's available elsewhere too)
 

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/top-secret-america-a-look-at-the-militarys-joint-special-operations-command/2011/08/30/gIQAvYuAxJ_story.html?hpid=z1

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YMC-130 H

Was there an AC-130 variant planned ? 'cause it would have been the YMCA-130. With a crew made of a native American, a soldier, a construction worker, a cowboy and leather-clad biker character with a horseshoe moustache - all gays.

As for the video - that crash is soooo ridiculous. Hope noone was hurt ? (save for the Herc' )
 

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CREDIBLE SPORT DVD ad from Pilgrim Studios Facebook page


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History of The Credible Sport Program DVD for sale.
Saturday, January 14, 2012
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Wednesday, April 22, 2009
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The DVD includes:


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28:00 minutes long.


Still Photographs of the 4 Credible Sport aircraft.


The 1st YMC 130 on it's record breaking take off.
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GUNSHIP AC-130H SPECTRE GUNSHIP FOOTAGE 4:00.


Test of the Lockheed AC-130 SOFI Modified at Lockheed Ontario in


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canon and the 105 MM Howitzer fire and watch the shells fly. Also over


80 Gunship interior photographs.
AC-130 Gunship.
PROJECT APOLLO FLARES 3:15
See the Lockheed Ontario workers install the IRCM (Infrared counter


measures) and Chaff Dispensers on the C 130 deployed for the Bosnian


Airlift. Watch the Flares fire and the chaff disperse.


C-130 Launching Anti Missile Flares.
FULTON RECOVERY SYSTEM S.T.A.R.S. COMBAT TALON PROJECT 46


S.T.A.R.S.SURFACE TO AIR RECOVERY SYSTEM 2:51.
Watch as MC-130 E CLAMP 64-551 Piloted by Skip Davenport picks up a


package of 4 to 6 test packages with the Fulton Recovery Device from the


Edwards Air Force Base Dry Lake bed. The Projects goal was to enable the


Combat Talon MC-130 E Clamp aircraft equipped with the Fulton Recovery
Device to pick up 4 to 6 Soldiers, or operatives anywhere in the world.
MC-130 H picking up a package with the Sky Hook Fulton Recovery device.
MC-130 H taking off at Edwards AFB, CA.
Total DVD run time 49:00


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5. YMC-130 Accident Report
6. YMC-130 Baseline Drawings and Graphs.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Additional DVD info and order form http://crediblesport.blogspot.com/
 

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An incredible effort really when you think of the time they had to conceive and put this extensive modification of the Hercules together! I think its such a pity that they never that little more time to prefect the concept and without such catastrophic consequence!

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The real question is did it say "ACME" on the side. ;)
 

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Pioneer said:
Some great in-depth info and drawings gents thank you!!

HARRUMPH!!!

ಠ_ಠ

Gentlemen, I'll point out that the C-130 drawings on the "Combat Reform" website - not just the Credible Sport drawings but pretty much all of 'em - were copied off of the Credible Sport DVD, mentioned previously: http://crediblesport.blogspot.com/

A forum member (not me, BTW) went to some considerable effort to put that collection togther. If you find the drawings to be of interest and value, consider buying the DVD, so his efforts aren't completley wasted by someone else just posting his stuff.
 

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famvburg said:
Where does it look like it's been shortened? It looks like standard one to me.

You're right ! It was the fin extension, that made me think, that the tail was shortened, sorry
 

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well, now all of you just should go and order that DVD
pity that guy only gives printed order form for ordering while saying that he have Paypal payment option - and no contact e-mail seen
tried to contact him through Facebook page with no success so far
 

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flateric said:
pity that guy only gives printed order form for ordering while saying that he have Paypal payment option - and no contact e-mail seen

If you click on the Paypal button waaaaaay down at the bottom, it takes you to an error page saying that "username" AT rocketmail.com is "currently unable to receive money." I emailed back and forth with him several times going on a year ago... same "username," but AT gmail.com. Maybe try contacting him there.

NOTE: I don't like giving out email addresses, so you'll have to do a few seconds investigative work here...
 

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Link found on another site...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCl3lfAx1Q

cheers,
Robin.
 

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https://www.timesunion.com/7dayarchive/article/Fuselage-of-historic-rocket-plane-en-route-to-13054313.php

Fuselage of historic rocket plane arrives in Glenville
By Amy Biancolli
Updated 9:35 pm EDT, Friday, July 6, 2018

The fuselage of a rocket-boosted plane that was designed to rescue Americans during the Iran Hostage Crisis arrived just in the nick of time Friday evening at the Empire State Aerosciences Museum in Glenville, part of a piece-by-piece transfer of the historically significant craft from Robins Air Force Base in Georgia.

The truck carrying the fuselage experienced difficulties on its journey. After getting hung up by a traffic light on Route 155 in Guilderland at about 1 p.m., it had to park on the roadside for hours because its permit did not allow for transport during rush hour between 4 and 6 p.m. The truck then moved swiftly to make it to the museum before sundown, as the same permit did not allow travel after dark.

The truck and its State Police escorts arrived at the Schenectady County Airport moments after the sun set Friday evening.

The Lockheed YMC130H, which took part in the secret operation code-named Credible Sport, “was made to land in a soccer field – to land in 600 feet and take off in 600 feet, with a full load. And it was built to rescue the hostages in Iran in 1980,” said Dan Wilson, acquisitions officer at the museum and project director of the plane’s transfer.

The military-transport aircraft was one of three C-130’s retrofitted — with rocket engines and aerodynamic modifications allowing abrupt arrivals and departures — to aid the American hostages, who were held for 444 days after students supporting the Iranian Revolution seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.

The first plane crashed on a test run.

The remaining two were no longer needed when the hostages were released moments after Ronald Reagan’s inauguration in January of 1981, and one was stripped of its retrofitting and returned to regular service. The other, which arrived Friday in Glenville, has spent the ensuing years at Robins Air Force Base, which has donated it to the Glenville museum.

“This is the most historic aircraft we ever got, and we’re honored to get it,” Wilson said.

The plane will be reassembled this September by a team from Robins Air Force Base, he said, adding that the museum hopes to obtain assistance in its subsequent renovation from the 109th Airlift Wing of the New York Air National Guard, stationed at the Stratton base in Schenectady.

Three tractor-trailers delivered the airplane’s wings and tail last week, Wilson said. The 97-foot-long fuselage arrived on a fourth Friday, with two more trucks coming in future weeks: one carrying four engines, the other carrying propellers.

He estimates “six to eight months” of painting and renovation – to give it “a totally authentic” look adhering to the original specifications -- before the plane is put on display at the Aerosciences Museum.

Its rockets will not be demonstrated live for visitors.

“Uh, no,” Wilson said.

69 transportation photos at the link above
 

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Glad to hear this YMC-130H will be restored!
 
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