Kashmir Conflict 2025 - News ONLY

[Ainen]

Well even if the IAF Rafale's threat library did not include the missile that downed it, I would still be very surprised if it did not anyway contain code that would identify an emitter with "hostile intent" like an active radar missile as an imminent threat.

It's AESA seeker(now for sure). Apply both the faster scan and all the usual LPI caveats.

 

[Trident]

Seriously folks, we don't even know if this was even shot down by an air to air weapon. Could have been a SAM..Could have been something completely unrelated.

To be fair, given the PL-15 debris littering the vicinity, I know what my working hypothesis is though.

However, as the saying goes, the closer you get to the target, the heavier the Flak will be. And judging by the amount of Flak I’m currently receiving in this thread, the observation that Russian military technology and tactics are flawed and outdated seems to be very much on point indeed.

Keep telling yourself that, Trump and Putin do, too.

And this is why a downing of an IAF Rafale is a Pyrrhic victory at best: Sure, it may add to the PAF’s scoreboard short term, but how will their Russian/Chinese equipment hold up in the long run given what we have recently learned from the conflict in the Ukraine? Ponder that now…..

Well, it is certainly notable that Pakistan's response so far, for all the rejoicing about the J-10C, has NOT included air raids of its own. Though funnily enough, as much of an avowed Rafale fan as I am, I think that has more to do with 3+ regiments of S-400 and 270 Su-30MKIs than 36 (well, 35) Rafales...

 

[Trident]

There seems to be a lot of consternation over a relatively modern fighter aircraft that might have been shot down by another relatively modern fighter aircraft in a combat environment with large forces on both sides pushed fairly close together without the benefit of weeks of specific operational prep (a la many western air operations over the past 30 years), and it's perplexing.

Rafale's good, but it's not likely to be a permanent winner against all comers. Maybe Chinese missiles are the best in the world by a country mile. More likely they're not, though. But any way you cut it, they're definitely dangerous. I don't see what all the drama is about.

Precisely.

If you were to re-play this raid 20 times over, you'd probably end up as often as not with 2 or 3 J-10s/JF-17s shot down by Rafales. With both sides this closely matched in terms of numbers, aircraft types and missile technology, you are essentially rolling the dice until you have a statistically significant number of encounters to draw a reliable exchange ratio from.

 

[F-2]

Firebirdfan used @stealthflanker AESA calculator and publicly available information to calculate rbe2’s range.


Interestingly it’s similar to what I have seen estimated for N011M bars. I am reminded

In fact, an AESA flew on Rafale in May 2003. According to Ramstein, a migration to AESA has been considered from the early days of the programme, and the RBE2 is designed so that an AESA front end can replace the current passive antenna and TWT. Power and cooling are adequate for the job. A programme called Demonstrateur de Radar a l'Antenne Active (DRAA) started in 2000, and the radar flew on a Falcon in late 2002 before flying in Rafale B301. "It was a difficult integration, taking two or three days," jokes Ramstein. The problem, however, is that DRAA relied on US-sourced high-power processing chips - which, after Korea and the Iraq war, no longer seemed like a good idea. A new AESA version of the RBE2, DRAAMA (DRAA modes avancées), using all-European technology, was launched in July 2004 and will be ready in 2007-08. "We have a firm commitment to AESA, which allows us to propose it for export," Ramstein says.
However, Dassault and Thales are not proposing to make the AESA the all-encompassing RF Cuisinart that Boeing (for example) envisages for the Super Hornet, with features such as passive detection, multi-beam operation and jamming. Nor does the team intend to exploit the AESA's wide bandwidth, which would mean a new radome. (This suggests that the current radome is a bandpass design, transparent at the RBE2 frequency but stealthily reflective at any other.) Rather, the approach is to minimise cost and risk by keeping the same modes as the RBE2, while harvesting what are seen as the most valuable advantages of the AESA. These include a 50 per cent-plus increase in detection range - a better match for Meteor - much better performance at the edges of the elevation and bearing envelope, better reliability through the elimination of single-point failures and lower through-life costs. With only 120 aircraft planned by 2012, the pace of the Rafale programme has been influenced more by budget considerations than by technology.




While the RBE2 AESA does not add any additional modes of operation compared to the Rafale's earlier passively electronic scanned array (PESA) RBE2, the performance in each mode is significantly improved, Thales stated. A key feature of AESAs, a lack of moving parts, has reduced the mean time between failure on the RBE2 AESA by a factor of 10 compared to the RBE2 PESA, according to Thales. The RBE2 AESA will also continue to "deliver full performance if a certain number of TR [Transmitter Receiver] modules have degraded", the spokesperson added, although they did not specify what this number was. While some early components, including TR modules, are understood to have been sourced from abroad, Thales has now "produced a complete supply chain [for the RBE2 AESA], with no critical component coming from abroad".

F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (2)

Lets carry over from the last thread !

www.key.aero

The F3R standard forgoes many of the extra capabilities of AESA, though I believe F4 does deliver on these. Back around 2010 it was said the UAE wanted 10% more range to match APG-80, more electrical generation was needed for this but it seems to have never been done. Rafale is set to be the first European Jet with a GaN radar, F5 should be prioritized.

 

[sf7pakistan]

3 Air Bases attacked in Pakistan with presumably ALCMs. Majority intercepted. Missiles also attacked Afghanistan and apparently Indian missiles also struck in Indian Punjab. - Pakistani Military

‘Very dangerous escalation’ as India-Pakistan cross-border clashes resume

Pakistan’s military says there will be ‘no de-escalation’ until it has responded fully to India’s attacks on Wednesday.

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