I just cleaned up these pictures, I wonder what this is (I do not know) - it's Convair

[John Thompson]

 

[sienar]

WOW!

First thought is martin, but the last image makes me think convair.

 

[John Thompson]

WOW!

First thought is martin, but the last image makes me think convair.

Never put that together with the 6. Agreed!

 

[Orionblamblam]

 

[John Thompson]

According to the accompanying text, that diagram's source is these paintings.

 

[Sherman Tank]

It's a General Dynamics design.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Designation?

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Seems to be "Convair Landing Boat: Krafft Ehricke's Atlas-launched spaceplane"

 

[archipeppe]

Designation?

Agree, even Scott leave it unidentified.

 

[archipeppe]

Seems to be "Convair Landing Boat: Krafft Ehricke's Atlas-launched spaceplane"

If I remember well the Ehricke's spaceplane did not have folding wing...

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Apparently these paintings were labelled "Apollo Atlas Separation", "Apollo Reentry Heating" and "Apollo Landing".

Scott identified it as a

Project Orion "landing boat."

Source: http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000842.html

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Related : Convair Outpost Lifeboat topic

Related: Project Orion Landing Boat topic

 

[Archibald]

I would hazard, the stage in the first picture should be Centaur-related - because Ehricke and General Dynamics... Centaur was their baby, plus spaceplanes needs all the energy available.

 

[Archibald]

WOW!

First thought is martin, but the last image makes me think convair.

Never put that together with the 6. Agreed!View attachment 651844

It also looks a bit like a Sea Dart, another a Convair GD / delta-wing product.

That art is so gorgeous and glorious !

 

[John Thompson]

The windscreen has Convair written all over it. I think EVERYTHING written about this bird on the web is speculation. I think it was something top secret, and maybe never even left the artists drawing stage. I don't follow anything on the web about this bird I am seeing. All speculation. Would love to know the real story.

 

[John Thompson]

Seems to be "Convair Landing Boat: Krafft Ehricke's Atlas-launched spaceplane"

checking - and thanks!

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

I think there are several related studies by Convair over a span of several years featuring an evolving delta spaceplane type design proposed to different programs -the Atlas Outpost, Project Orion, and others. The artwork posted here (thanks for the high quality pics!) seems to be the last, evolved version. It never got further than the drawing board.

 

[archipeppe]

I think there are several related studies by Convair over a span of several years featuring an evolving delta spaceplane type design proposed to different programs -the Atlas Outpost, Project Orion, and others. The artwork posted here (thanks for the high quality pics!) seems to be the last, evolved version. It never got further than the drawing board.

I Agree, if we consider the Atlas lifeboat as late 50's such design scream mid 60's....

 

[Michel Van]

There differences to Original Krafft Ehricke's Atlas-launched spaceplane and this depicted

The Atlas is shorter and on top formed to match the Lifting Body
and second stage has single engine
also is Lifting Body far larger als Ehricke design from 1950s

 

[Barrington Bond]

There appears to be the reflection of a tripod to the left in the second image as though these were hanging on a wall and photographed...

 

[Archibald]

the reflection of a tripod

H.G Wells would love it ! (runs for cover).

 

[DarkLord]

I believe it was an Atlas "paper project", which was not built. There was a similar project involving a 'manned' Atlas with a Centaur "Lifting Body" second stage.