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Hawker P.1134

Mark Nankivil

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Greetings All -

I was recently given a couple of dozen tatter issues of Flying Review International that are from the early-mid '60s. In Vol. 20 No.1, there's an article called "The Frustrating 'Fifties" which covers a number of Hawker designs. Attached is P.1134 - there's artwork by Jozef Gatial elsewhere on the forum.

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By the way, does the article from the Flying Review contain any info on Hawker P.1107 (one one zero seven) project?

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Sorry Piotr, it mentions the P.1103 (no drawing though) and then jumps forward to P.1121.

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Mark Nankivil said:
Sorry Piotr, it mentions the P.1103 (no drawing though) and then jumps forward to P.1121.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

Hi
Did that article state some were that the SR177 could be developed into a robot fighter or missile platform or was it in the earlier article "Supersonic Scrapheap?

Spark
 

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Hi Spark -

The article deals essentially with Hawker projects with no mention of the SR177. I'll have to look and see if the other article you mention is in any of the other issues I received.

Thanks! Mark
 

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Hi!

http://shipbucket.com/Misc%20Drawings/FD%20Scale%20Vehicles/Air%20Vehicles%20-%20Unbuilt/H/Hawker%20P.1134%20-%20Great%20Britain.png
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?30925-Hawker-P1134
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,956.msg7583.html#msg7583

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1852.msg15752.html#msg15752

http://shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=92576

"Sir Sidney Camm, John Fozard and Ralph Hooper at Hawkers began work on a turborocket-powered Mach 3 research aircraft in 1956 and in 1958 visited the RAE who gave their support. Bristol RP.20 ramjets would be used and after much discussion between Hawkers and the engine firms it was decided to pair the RP.20s with a Rolls-Royce RB.146 reheated Avon. The two ramjets and one turbojet would share common intakes but had three separate exhaust nozzles. Work on P.1134 by Fozard began in November 1958. The P.1134/1 dates from march 1959 and has the Rolls-Royce Avon. The ventral fins could fold upwards for ground clearance on landing and take-off. It would be built from stainless steel. The P.1134/2 design moved the intakes forward and added canard foreplanes. Further refinements led to the P.1134 which would be Hawker's official submission for a Mach 3-4 research aircraft. In April 1959 the RAE wanted Hawkers to design an aircraft suitable for Mach 4-5 and this had a standard hypersonic delta wing. However, in June 1959 the Ministry of Supply halted all work stating that the P.1134 duplicated the Bristol Type 188, to which Hawker's protested as the 188 was for a totally different programme. However, with no funds forthcoming stopped. Fozard went onto the P.1127 and Hooper carried on with some military Mach 3 studies. These impressive aircraft may have proved highly expensive and irrelevant to Britain's aircraft requirements and the combination engine probably possessed many technical unknowns too. But they still have that Hawker magic."
 

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blackkite

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Is this P.1134/1?
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=956.0;attach=8375;image
P.1134/2?
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=956.0;attach=8381;image
P.1134/3? Single turbojet engine+two ramjet engine.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=956.0;attach=8377;image
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1852.0;attach=15475;image
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P.1134/4? Plan view is little strange? Single turbojet engine+two ramjet engine.
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=956.0;attach=8379;image
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1852.0;attach=15479;image
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British Secret Projects: Hypersonics, Ramjets and Missiles Hardcover – Import, 26 Jul 2007
"Also included are ramjet-powered projects like the Hawker P.1134 high-speed research aircraft,"
 

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It seems to me that the P.1134 would have proven to be a far better investment than the Bristol Type 188. Ah, the road not taken. :(
 

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Grey Havoc said:
It seems to me that the P.1134 would have proven to be a far better investment than the Bristol Type 188. Ah, the road not taken. :(
HmHm......British XF-103. ;D But I feel turbojet engine is little small to accelerate.
XF-103 is very slim.
According to BRITISH SECRET PROJECTS HYPERSONIC, RAMJET & MISSILES, ignite ramjet at mach 0.9, clim on combined power, shut down the Avon at mach 2.2~2.3, climb on ranjets alone.......
 

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From L+K 5/1968.
 

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