Handley Page Victor Development & Projects

[aim9xray]

Sort of - defined as "A strip of flexible material that can be used for drawing curves, measuring posture, etc. " Unsually a bendable metal core with a plastic exterior. Think of it as a spline that would [mostly] hold its shape without the ducks.

 

[hermankeil]

Sort of - defined as "A strip of flexible material that can be used for drawing curves, measuring posture, etc. " Unsually a bendable metal core with a plastic exterior. Think of it as a spline that would [mostly] hold its shape without the ducks.

 

[hermankeil]

OK, I remember them now.

 

[CNH]

How about this?

 

[Michel Van]

How about this?

SIX ALBM ?
are they Skybold or British proposals ?

 

[Foo Fighter]

Or fantasy. Most likely.

 

[TsrJoe]

ref. 'Skybolt, at arms length', Nicholas Hill, Fonthill Media, 2019 (page 156)

an excellent volume which also includes further drawings of the proposed HP. Victor Skybolt 2, 4 & 6x installations as well as other UK. ALBM. studies (also a useful adjunct to Chris Gibson's 'Vulcan's Hammer' volume)

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Or fantasy. Most likely.

Not when the poster is CNH = C N Hill, author of 'Skybolt, at arms length'

 

[Foo Fighter]

Apologies folks, seen a lot of these and the number of fantasy pictures is huge. Quite sad really

 

[CNH]

Not forgetting:

 

[CJGibson]

Not fantasy, not HP, but Skybolt. Could carry eight Skybolt. I sincerely hope you're not suggesting CNH and I are 'fanboy' artists. We leave that to the Advanced Projects Departments of the companies.

Chris

 

[CNH]

And:

 

[blackkite]

http://shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8737&start=230Please check page 19 to 25. I also recommend you to check every pages.

 

[blackkite]

Hi! Victor wing structure.
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums...dley-page-victor-b1-and-2-differences/page/4/

 

[hesham]

From Aeroplane Monthly 1994-1.

 

[hesham]

From Aeroplane monthly 2009/7.

 

[blackkite]

Hi!
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/06/18/handley-page-victor/

 

[aonestudio]

https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/last-handley-page-victor-aircraft-on-display/

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522896821118554112

View: https://twitter.com/RoyalAirForce/status/1522896821118554112

 

[Hobbes]

I'm a bit puzzled by them referring to it as the 'last Victor'. Cosford has one, there's one at York, and Wikipedia mentions a third at Bruntingthorpe. I suppose they mean it's the last B.1 as the others are tankers...

 

[hesham]

From Aeroplane 1959.

 

[hesham]

From this one.

 

[hesham]

From Flight 1959.

 

[scautomoton]

Does anyone have a source for pictures/drawings of the camera crate fitted to the SR.2 variants? Also, the bomb bay fuel tanks that would sit fore and aft of the camera crate.

 

[CJGibson]

I think they're in They Also Serve.

Chris

 

[Arjen]

@scautomoton Victor B.2 (SR) of 543 Squadron.
From V Force - The History of Britain's Airborne Deterrent by Andrew Brookes, Jane's 1982.
Much better colour image of this - XM715 - can be found on page 86 of They Also Serve
Images of camera crate on pages 52 and 85.

 

[Arjen]

I'm a bit puzzled by them referring to it as the 'last Victor'. Cosford has one, there's one at York, and Wikipedia mentions a third at Bruntingthorpe. I suppose they mean it's the last B.1 as the others are tankers...

A late reply.
The Duxford Victor is XH648, a tanker.
September 4, 2023.

 

[scorp]

Does anyone have explanation as to why the photo of white scale model Phase 6 shows underwing missiles which clearly are NOT Skybolts?

 

[PMN1]

Re: Supersonic HP Victor

Snippet from Victor B Phase 4 brochure

The Victor Phase 4 development proposal results from a study of the supersonic capabilities of the Victor B. Mk 1and 2 aircraft.
Application of the area rule to the Victor shows that it closely approximates to the optimum shape for minimum compressibility drag in supersonic flight. The supersonic Victor is derived by the simple expedient of modifying the fuselage shape and employing engine reheat.
An intensive supersonic wind tunnel testing programme is proposed to check the aerodynamic assumptions underlying this study together with flight tests on Victor B Mk 1.
Supersonically the Phase 4 cruises at 65,000ft over the target, whilst subsonically it has a range/load/height performance comparable with that of the B. Mk.2 with a optimum cruising Mach number of 0.9 (515 Knots, T.A.S.).
The development utilises existing B. Mk.2. Wings and tail unit, with a redesigned (area rule) fuselage. The Rolls Royce Conway 31 engines are fitted with afterburners.
High energy fuels, when available, can be used relatively simply in the afterburners and increase still further the “supersonic spurt” ranges.

“Supersonic spurt” over target = Boron!

What was the expected supersonic speed?

What was the bombload compared to the standard Victor....the fuselage looks narrower?

If you are carrying instant sunshine it shouldn't matter too much but just wondered what the conventional load was expected to be.

 

[Pirate Pete]

Here is some info on the ‘supersonic’ Victor…

 

[PMN1]

Here is some info on the ‘supersonic’ Victor…

So if I read it correctly the weapons load could be all three listed together totalling 24,000lb?

 

[scautomoton]

I'd imagine that was more due to the need to fit all three simultaneously rather than the inability to carry more weight. The regular Victor could carry 35x 1000lb bombs.