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Fincantieri PPA patrol ship at EURONAVAL 2014

Published on Oct 31, 2014

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index....
Fincantieri PPA (Pattugliatore Polivalente D?Altura), Offshore Polyvalent Patrol, is first revealed at EURONAVAL 2014. The vessel can perform a wide range of offshore patrolling missions thanks to its innovative modular sections conception. PPA have been chosen by Italian Navy for the replacement program of Italian corvettes, patrol vessels and Durand de la Penne destroyer

http://youtu.be/p6Z2lW12lo8
 
Is this a similar concept as the Damen Crossover design?


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Crossover is a Dutch Absalon - a simple design by people with serious commercial credentials, focused on maximum payload/volume at the lowest cost.


PPA is the Italian LCS/SCS. A make-work project designed by Powerpoint admirals in collusion with domestic industry, without any kind of serious analysis of requirements or validated CONOPS to justify some of the key design drivers. The story goes like this: "We want something small and cheap... don't call it a frigate, because we need lots of them. Oh and please make it fast... and don't forget to add these modules/goodies because we need to support XYZ domestic manufacturer. Hmm nice, almost there... now make it a little more like a frigate please. Oh did I mention it needs to be cheap?"


OK that may be uncharitable, but the Italian naval forums don't seem too positive. Smells too much of "can I have my cake and eat it too".


Notice that the Danes never bought into the "small and cheap" fallacy, let alone into the "small, cheap and fast... frigate that isn't a frigate" pipe dream...
 
H_K said:
PPA is the Italian LCS/SCS. A make-work project designed by Powerpoint admirals in collusion with domestic industry, without any kind of serious analysis of requirements or validated CONOPS to justify some of the key design drivers. The story goes like this: "We want something small and cheap... don't call it a frigate, because we need lots of them. Oh and please make it fast... and don't forget to add these modules/goodies because we need to support XYZ domestic manufacturer. Hmm nice, almost there... now make it a little more like a frigate please. Oh did I mention it needs to be cheap?"
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Well, this thing is definitely not a "frigate", it's destroyer sized!
 
The agreement provides for the execution of the adjustment activities necessary to allow the upgrade of PPA class units from Light and Light Plus configurations to Full Combat System configuration, in addition to the introduction of advanced capabilities in the cyber Defence domain. For the share of Fincantieri's competence, the total value of the activities is equal to about 62 million euros.

https://www.analisidifesa.it/2026/0...-ppa-nella-configurazione-full-combat-system/
 
ComradeVortex said:
The agreement provides for the execution of the adjustment activities necessary to allow the upgrade of PPA class units from Light and Light Plus configurations to Full Combat System configuration, in addition to the introduction of advanced capabilities in the cyber Defence domain. For the share of Fincantieri's competence, the total value of the activities is equal to about 62 million euros.

https://www.analisidifesa.it/2026/0...-ppa-nella-configurazione-full-combat-system/
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Unsurprisingly, the bulk of the cost is probably Leonardo's areas of responsibility (though not as much as previously now that WASS has transferred from Leonardo to Fincantieri).

The full program cost is expected to come in at €394 million.

https://www.occar.int/news/occar-ppa-programme-contract-amendment-no-10-signed
 

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