Covid-19 Vaccine - Where, How & Costs

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Meanwhile, no virus can stop a private national bank called the Federal Reserve. 'There has also been “clear progress,” he said, toward the Fed’s goal of maximum employment.'

I did not know that the Federal Reserve ran the country.

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Powell: Fed on track to slow aid for economy later this year

The Federal Reserve will start dialing back its ultra-low-interest rate policies this year as long as hiring continues to improve, Chair Jerome Powell said Friday, signaling the beginning of the end of the Fed’s extraordinary response to the pandemic recession.
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Do you think sars-2 will mutate into sars-3 in a year or it will disappear and reappear after 20 years
 
Let’s take the positive from this that the vaccine program has averted now almost 110,000 deaths. Just as a side point I believe from a psychological viewpoint number of deaths averted should be kept front and centre of press releases as it will show the vaccines are working and be a positive even in more rocky periods.

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COVID-19: Coronavirus cases rising in all but two regions, figures from Public Health England reveal

London, which has twice been the epicentre of England's pandemic, has the lowest rate of infection, and has actually seen the number of cases reported decrease.
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kocovgoce said:
Do you think sars-2 will mutate into sars-3 in a year or it will disappear and reappear after 20 years
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Your question runs into problems with the proper terminology:

SARS-CoV-1 (SARS) and SARS-CoV-2 (COVID), are separate human-infectious strains* of the SARS-CoV virus, with a 79% genome overlap (ie significantly more different from each other than we are from Chimps at 96% overlap), SARS-CoV-3 would be used for a third crossover from the parent lineage, not a variant of SARS-CoV-2.

(MERS is MERS-CoV, a separate species of Coronavirus, within a separate sub-genus (Merbecovirus vs Sarbecovirus), but the same genus (Betacoronavirus)).

We've already seen the emergence of multiple variants of SARS-CoV-2, but accumulating a 21% divergence from the original genetics equivalent to the difference between SARS-Cov-1 and 2 will take a considerable time (coronavirus mutation rate seems to be estimated at about 25-35 base pairs/year). The spread of vaccination will drive evolution within the different Covid strains we've already identified, because strains able to do better in vaccinated individuals will have an evolutionary advantage, but that only takes fairly minor genetic changes - coronaviruses contain about 30,000 base pairs (DNA characters), but the mutations that have gotten attention such as E484K (aka Eeek!) actually denote a single codon change (from one set of 3 DNA characters coding for a single amino-acid to a different set of 3 coding for another amino-acid), the smallest degree of change possible.

I expect SARS-CoV-2 to become endemic, because there doesn't seem to be the political will to wipe it out. The point at which it might just vanish was missed way back at the start of 2020. There clearly is the potential for new coronavirus crossovers, because we've seen three in twenty years, but there's a good chance they'd come from a different coronavirus than SARS-CoV or MERS-CoV.

* There are also bat-resident strains.
 
TomcatViP said:
Grey Havoc said:
www.telegraph.co.uk

100,000 AstraZeneca doses close to expiry date could be thrown away

NHS England had promised to collect excess vaccines from GP sites – but plans have been ‘seriously delayed’, leaked emails show
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Vaccinating the 100k Afghan refugee could be a good usage.
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That would be a considerable logistical challenge - collecting all the due to expire vaccines from wherever they're currently distributed to, then shipping them to all the wherevers the refugees have ended up. Simpler to vaccinate all the refugees from local resources, and try to ensure all the short-lifed vaccines get used wherever they currently are.
 
@DWG : Yup, you are right. It depends on how they are stocked. My (uncorrect) understanding was that those were doses sitting in a few AZ depots somewhere.
My bad.

On another note:
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www.abc.net.au

US intelligence divided on origins of COVID-19

US intelligence agencies remain divided on the origins of the coronavirus but believe China's leaders did not know about the virus before the start of the global pandemic, according to a review ordered by President Joe Biden.
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TLDR:
4 agencies: animal crossover, low confidence
1 agency: accidental lab release, moderate confidence*
Everyone: not genetically engineered

* That agency might have moderate confidence, but doesn't appear to have convinced anyone else.
 
Unvaccinated teacher infected half her students with Covid, CDC finds

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Unvaccinated teacher infected half their students with Covid, CDC finds

Teacher read to class without a mask despite Covid symptoms and infected 26 people at California elementary school
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"An unvaccinated teacher in a California elementary school infected half her students and 26 people in total when she contracted the Covid-19 Delta variant, researchers for the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found.

The researchers said the teacher attended school for two days despite displaying symptoms of Covid-19, and read aloud to her class without a mask during that time. Infections corresponded to the classroom’s seating chart, with the students sitting closest to the teacher the most likely to be infected."
 
Flyaway said:
So this guy wanted the freedom to widow his wife and leave his children without their father.

www.mirror.co.uk

Outspoken Covid conspiracy theorist, 30, who led mask protests dies from virus

Caleb Wallace, from Texas, who organized a Freedom Rally against Covid restrictions in July had been on a ventilator since August 8. He claimed that he sort to see the end of "Covid tyranny"
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I hate that kind of "lists" but from the top of my head it is at least the fourth "prominent" anti-vax to die that month. There was British one early august, two more over the last two weeks, and this one.

They are paying for their stupidity - they just don't grasp some basic facts:
a) the virus takes no prisoniers
b) the virus don't care about politics.
c) It is just there to infect, kill, and spread.
 
Archibald said:
a) the virus takes no prisoners
b) the virus doesn't care about politics.
c) It is just there to infect, kill, and spread.
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Exactly. This is why you don't play with bioweapons or treat an existing plague as a bioweapon.
 
In Los Angeles, price for admission at nation’s second-largest school district is a negative covid test — every single week


"LOS ANGELES — As hundreds of thousands of kids return to class in the nation’s second-largest school district, they’re participating in what amounts to a massive public health experiment unfolding in real time: Every single student, teacher and administrator in the Los Angeles public schools must get tested for the coronavirus every single week — indefinitely.

Even the fully vaccinated are required to get tested. Those who test positive stay home for at least 10 days. And those who decline to get tested can’t come at all."
 
I wonder if they're using tests less annoying than the foot long brain tickler in California by now. Here in Louisiana... nope.
 
Though we hear about these other variants none of them seem spread very far, I suppose they get crowded out by the Delta variant.

www.mirror.co.uk

New South African Covid strain detected in UK is 'most mutated so far'

The C.1.2 strain has been linked to 'increased transmissibility' and been found in England, China, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mauritius, New Zealand, Portugal and Switzerland
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Archibald said:
Flyaway said:
So this guy wanted the freedom to widow his wife and leave his children without their father.

www.mirror.co.uk

Outspoken Covid conspiracy theorist, 30, who led mask protests dies from virus

Caleb Wallace, from Texas, who organized a Freedom Rally against Covid restrictions in July had been on a ventilator since August 8. He claimed that he sort to see the end of "Covid tyranny"
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk
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I hate that kind of "lists" but from the top of my head it is at least the fourth "prominent" anti-vax to die that month. There was British one early august, two more over the last two weeks, and this one.

They are paying for their stupidity - they just don't grasp some basic facts:
a) the virus takes no prisoniers
b) the virus don't care about politics.
c) It is just there to infect, kill, and spread.
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Another two here as well. I have to wonder how many avoidable deaths we have to see before some of these people get the message, or are they too far gone in some cases.

Staffordshire Covid sceptic Marcus Birks dies in hospital https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-58376709

www.theguardian.com

Florida radio host who called himself ‘Mr Anti-Vax’ dies of Covid-19

Station and friends pay tribute to host Marc Bernier, who was hospitalized three weeks ago
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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I know it's revolting but the covid-sceptic phenomena is not solely related to Covid-19. It illustrates only a cracking undermining our modern western society (as I can't see such wide spread movement in Asia for example).

So instead of simply abhorring what Anti-Vaxxers are, perhaps we should patiently try to care for this underlying problem and patch urgently the cracks to get a better result.
 
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Covid vaccination campaign, Europe:
230000+ death projection for 1st of December

59% of the European population are yet fully vaccinated (262 Million).

3/4th of medical European workers are vaccinated on average, albeit with a ratio as low as 10% in some countries.

(in Fr)
www.lefigaro.fr

Covid-19 : l'OMS redoute 236.000 morts en Europe d'ici au 1er décembre

L'Organisation mondiale de la santé juge «fiable» une projection prévoyant 236.000 morts supplémentaires du Covid-19 en Europe d'ici au 1er décembre...
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Richard N said:
In Los Angeles, price for admission at nation’s second-largest school district is a negative covid test — every single week
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That's basically what the whole of the UK was doing for the last term before the summer break. I wouldn't call it a 'public health experiment' so much as basic common sense. It goes nicely together with:

www.theguardian.com

Unvaccinated teacher infected half their students with Covid, CDC finds

Teacher read to class without a mask despite Covid symptoms and infected 26 people at California elementary school
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Flyaway said:
Archibald said:
Flyaway said:
So this guy wanted the freedom to widow his wife and leave his children without their father.

www.mirror.co.uk

Outspoken Covid conspiracy theorist, 30, who led mask protests dies from virus

Caleb Wallace, from Texas, who organized a Freedom Rally against Covid restrictions in July had been on a ventilator since August 8. He claimed that he sort to see the end of "Covid tyranny"
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk
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I hate that kind of "lists" but from the top of my head it is at least the fourth "prominent" anti-vax to die that month. There was British one early august, two more over the last two weeks, and this one.

They are paying for their stupidity - they just don't grasp some basic facts:
a) the virus takes no prisoniers
b) the virus don't care about politics.
c) It is just there to infect, kill, and spread.
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Another two here as well. I have to wonder how many avoidable deaths we have to see before some of these people get the message, or are they too far gone in some cases.

Staffordshire Covid sceptic Marcus Birks dies in hospital https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-58376709

www.theguardian.com

Florida radio host who called himself ‘Mr Anti-Vax’ dies of Covid-19

Station and friends pay tribute to host Marc Bernier, who was hospitalized three weeks ago
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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There was a story from the US last week I think which said that there are a lot of anti vaxers there in hopsital with covid are refusing to accept they have covid......
 
Though these new variants appear they seem to be crushed out of existence by Delta. I wonder if it will crush all the other major variants like Alpha, Beta and Gamma.
A new coronavirus variant that was first detected in South Africa in May does not appear to be spreading, the World Health Organisation said on Tuesday, adding it was monitoring the variant as the virus evolves.

“It does not appear to be increasing in circulation,” WHO spokesperson Margaret Harris told a U.N. briefing, adding the variant labelled C.1.2. was not currently classified as a “variant of concern” by the U.N. health agency.
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www.reuters.com

WHO says C.1.2. COVID-19 variant does not seem to be spreading

A new coronavirus variant that was first detected in South Africa in May does not appear to be spreading, the World Health Organisation said on Tuesday, adding it was monitoring the variant as the virus evolves.
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Yes now anti-vaxxers are attacking a 17 year old girl who was seriously ill with COVID and has been left with serious medical conditions. I wonder if she would have still been here if not for already having had her first dose of vaccination.

news.sky.com

COVID-19: Girl, 17, in hospital with coronavirus is targeted by anti-vaxxers after urging young people to have jab

Maisy Evans, 17, feared she would die after becoming seriously unwell with COVID. She tells Sky News she has been accused of being a "liar" and an "actress paid by the government" after revealing her ordeal on social media.
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Grey Havoc said:
Flyaway said:
Though these new variants appear they seem to be crushed out of existence by Delta. I wonder if it will crush all the other major variants like Alpha, Beta and Gamma.
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On the other hand, the World Health Organisation's reliability is quite in question these days.
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I think it would make the pharmacy and medical professions easier in the longer term if Delta did remove other variants and Covid coalesced around the one strain even if that kept evolving.
 
Arjen said:
It is gratifying to note that the grand tradition of lies, damned lies and statistics is alive and well in Tallahassee.
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One weird side effect of that criminal idiocy is that, there are so many patients in life support in Florida, the state is lacking LOX for... rockets. I kid you not.
(even as a space nerd, of course I would say: human lives matters more than rockets, there is no question about it).
 
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