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Clear history about Ni-Go and F-Go Japanese Atomic Project during WW2

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https://www.atomicheritage.org/history/japanese-atomic-bomb-project
 

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The information presented is not complete. Chemist Kazuo Kuroda worked at Riken during the war. He had documents that he told his wife to return to the Riken scientific research institute after he died. Drawings were published and experts concluded they "do not believe the bomb would have been very powerful."
 

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The information presented is not complete. Chemist Kazuo Kuroda worked at Riken during the war. He had documents that he told his wife to return to the Riken scientific research institute after he died. Drawings were published and experts concluded they "do not believe the bomb would have been very powerful."
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The information presented is not complete. Chemist Kazuo Kuroda worked at Riken during the war. He had documents that he told his wife to return to the Riken scientific research institute after he died. Drawings were published and experts concluded they "do not believe the bomb would have been very powerful."
Since "very powerful" appears to be a rather subjective measure, that still leaves open though the question whether those very same experts believed whether it could have been functional at all?
 

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There is no doubt that the Japanese bomb was functional, otherwise there would have been no need to add a mention of how powerful. Portions of the document were published in the Asahi Shimbun.
 

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If anyone is actually claiming that Japan actually had a functional a-bomb in WW2 please quote and get give links to some real hard (verified) evidence or please withdraw what appears to be real ridiculous tin-hatted conspiracy bullshit.
 

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He meant a workable design, not a functional weapon.
 

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I see the overly emotional have arrived on cue. Let's start with the Abilene Reporter-News, October 3, 1946. Page one has "Japs Had A-Bomb Just Before Soviets Arrived." Here's a photo of Albert Einstein at Riken:

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I see the overly emotional have arrived on cue. Let's start with the Abilene Reporter-News, October 3, 1946. Page one has "Japs Had A-Bomb Just Before Soviets Arrived." Here's a photo of Albert Einstein at Riken:

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You’ve attached a link to a fantasy pretending to be a fact; are you unaware of that or are attempting to mislead people?
As it appears to be the latter I’m reporting you on that basis.
 

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The nature of the site where that old article was found should have been a warning.
 
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The nature of the site where that old article was found should have been a warning.
Indeed ! If not already deterred by the awry title ("...ON THE INTERENT !"), or the "fact", that
on that site Martin Luther obviously seems to have been canonised, the nonsensical story of the
German A-bomb test in Thuringia is perpetuated again ... :rolleyes:
 

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The nature of the site where that old article was found should have been a warning.
Indeed ! If not already deterred by the awry title ("...ON THE INTERENT !"), or the "fact", that
on that site Martin Luther obviously seems to have been canonised, the nonsensical story of the
German A-bomb test in Thuringia is perpetuated again ... :rolleyes:
Germany Atomic Research was too underfunded to reach a construction of A-bomb .
 

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The nature of the site where that old article was found should have been a warning.
Indeed ! If not already deterred by the awry title ("...ON THE INTERENT !"), or the "fact", that
on that site Martin Luther obviously seems to have been canonised, the nonsensical story of the
German A-bomb test in Thuringia is perpetuated again ... :rolleyes:
Germany Atomic Research was too underfunded to reach a construction of A-bomb .

How do you know that?
 

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Neither Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan came particularly close to building a fission a-bomb during WW2.
Neither nation saw it as a realistic industrial goal; partially based on limited/ mistaken technical understanding, partially based on realistic understanding of what their economies were capable of while trying to sustain total war against an economically superior coalition of enemies.
Anything else is very much fringe conspiracy theory nonsense totally unsupported by actual historical fact.
 

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Neither Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan came particularly close to building a fission a-bomb during WW2.
Neither nation saw it as a realistic industrial goal; partially based on limited/ mistaken technical understanding, partially based on realistic understanding of what their economies were capable of while trying to sustain total war against an economically superior coalition of enemies.
Anything else is very much fringe conspiracy theory nonsense totally unsupported by actual historical fact.

Interesting. So the ALSOS Mission turned up nothing? Had I gone with the above, not to mention others, further research would have stopped. The Deutsches Museum had been negotiating with the Americans for the release of documents related to German history from the period. In the late 1990s, release was granted for a portion of those documents. In 2001, the Deutsches Museum put select documents on display. You can contact them. Example:

Headquarters
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ALSOS Mission
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2 May 1945

SUBJECT: Gerlach Summary of Nuclear Reports

1. A new edition of "Forschungsberichte" was planned containing articles on successful pile experiments. Five articles in all were contemplated, and Gerlach wrote an introductory summary. We found this introductory summary in rough pencilled form, which gives the status of the project as of January1945.

Published in Atomversuche in Deutschland by Günter Nagel
 

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Neither Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan came particularly close to building a fission a-bomb during WW2.
Neither nation saw it as a realistic industrial goal; partially based on limited/ mistaken technical understanding, partially based on realistic understanding of what their economies were capable of while trying to sustain total war against an economically superior coalition of enemies.
Anything else is very much fringe conspiracy theory nonsense totally unsupported by actual historical fact.

Interesting. So the ALSOS Mission turned up nothing? Had I gone with the above, not to mention others, further research would have stopped. The Deutsches Museum had been negotiating with the Americans for the release of documents related to German history from the period. In the late 1990s, release was granted for a portion of those documents. In 2001, the Deutsches Museum put select documents on display. You can contact them. Example:

Headquarters
European Theater Of Operations
United States Army
ALSOS Mission
APO 887

2 May 1945

SUBJECT: Gerlach Summary of Nuclear Reports

1. A new edition of "Forschungsberichte" was planned containing articles on successful pile experiments. Five articles in all were contemplated, and Gerlach wrote an introductory summary. We found this introductory summary in rough pencilled form, which gives the status of the project as of January1945.

Published in Atomversuche in Deutschland by Günter Nagel
I’m not trying to start an argument, only stating the actual facts.
This isn’t a conspiracy theory website, I’ve reported you again on that basis.
 

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Neither Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan came particularly close to building a fission a-bomb during WW2.
Neither nation saw it as a realistic industrial goal; partially based on limited/ mistaken technical understanding, partially based on realistic understanding of what their economies were capable of while trying to sustain total war against an economically superior coalition of enemies.
Anything else is very much fringe conspiracy theory nonsense totally unsupported by actual historical fact.
The nature of the site where that old article was found should have been a warning.
Indeed ! If not already deterred by the awry title ("...ON THE INTERENT !"), or the "fact", that
on that site Martin Luther obviously seems to have been canonised, the nonsensical story of the
German A-bomb test in Thuringia is perpetuated again ... :rolleyes:
Germany Atomic Research was too underfunded to reach a construction of A-bomb .

How do you know that?
Look at what was going on in the Axis nuclear projects. Compare and contrast with the Manhattan Project. 28 billion dollars in modern money. Two vast facilities in Oak Ridge TN and Hanford WA with 130000 employees. This require the joint efforts of the US, UK, and Canada. Neither Germany nor Japan had these sort of resources to spare.
 

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For those, still interested in this theme, for which NO real evidence was ever presented, please try the
forum search with keywords like "German A-Bomb nuclear weapons".
And, please, always keep point 1 of the forum rules in mind !
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