Caudron designations

From TU 205,

dear Apophenia,please add C.637 & C.638 Projects.
 

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From TU 205,

a small Info about C.880 & C.850.
 

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hesham said:
From TU 205,

a small Info about C.880 & C.850.
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There is a deal of confusion over the C.850 ... probably because that designation was re-used so many times.

The C.850 Mésange was, of course, a planned postwar French copy of the prewar German DFS Olympia Meise sailplane. Note that both Meise and Mésange translate as Tit or Titmouse.

In their Histoire du vol à voile français (Cépaduès, Toulouse, 1992), Reginald and Anne Jouhaud say that Caudron was originally tapped to provide French-built Olympia Meise (with orders for 210 later reduced to 100). Instead, it was later decided shift the contract to SNCAN - resulting in Nord 2000 Norplane production.

So, what is Trait d'Union talking about here? They seem to be proposing a motoplaneur development of the unbuilt C.850 Mésange sailplane. The designation C.850 was also applied to a built motoplaneur ... but that motor-glider was based on the C.800 Épervier airframe. Perhaps TU has simply muddled their Caudron designations?
 
From TU 292,

what was those ?.
 

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hesham said:
From TU 292,

what was those ?.
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The translation;

In L'Air 516 of March 1942, we
find an article on gliders put in
construction at the time and in particular,
Caudron gliders:

Following the establishment of the company's Glider Department, headed by Raymond Jarlaud, a work program was drawn up on the basis of a
range made up of five devices:

- Two-seater school and training glider

- Single-seat training glider

- High performance single-seater glider

- Performance single-seater glider

- Performance two-seater glider

The Caudron C.800 corresponded to
Category 1, C.810 to Category 2 and
the C.820 to category 3. At the time of
article, the other two categories had not yet materialized in a project.
 
From Docavia 34,

C.771 was uncompleted variant,due to heavy modification and the result of delays.
 
hesham said:
Many thanks to you my dear Philippe,

but is i the same as C.220, or not ?.
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It's completely different: the C.220 was a biplane trainer, member of the "Luciole" family. The R-220 was probably designed by Marcel Riffard for Deutch de la Meurthe race, when he was hired by Caudon company. I suspect that the R.220 was an ancestor of the C.300.
 
PhR said:
It's completely different: the C.220 was a biplane trainer, member of the "Luciole" family. The R-220 was probably designed by Marcel Riffard for Deutch de la Meurthe race, when he was hired by Caudon company. I suspect that the R.220 was an ancestor of the C.300.
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Yes my dear,and your first picture had a drawing to a biplane,right ?,and as you see in this
topic,there are many gaps,can you provide us a more Info about what do you know from
them, and thanks.
 
PhR said:
That one? View attachment 784126
This is just a logo from Caudron-Renault company on the cover page of the report.
The R-220 is a pure monoplane.
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OK my dear Philippe,and please if you have more projects to Caudron,you can send ithem in the topic of the Early Secret section.
 
hesham said:
Also can I ask,if this project related to R.200 or not ?.
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Where does this "R.200" come from? You were discussing C.220 vs. R.220, no "200" involved!
This is how fake designations start to take a life of their own on the internet...

However, if we're to discuss the "200" slot, it was also used twice by Caudron: for the C.200 project and the (De Viscaya) PV.200 high-wing pusher floatplane.
 
Stargazer said:
Where does this "R.200" come from? You were discussing C.220 vs. R.220, no "200" involved!
This is how fake designations start to take a life of their own on the internet...

However, if we're to discuss the "200" slot, it was also used twice by Caudron: for the C.200 project and the (De Viscaya) PV.200 high-wing pusher floatplane.
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I know all of this ?,but the question is; if there was a relationship between Riffard R.200 and
Caudron C.200,because they have the same definition,C.200 was a single-engine high-wing
tourer aircraft project.
 
Apophenia said:
380

390

C.400 - 1934 Phalène, military desig. for C.282, x 40*
- C.400: 1 x 120 hp Renault Pdi, span 11.62 m
-- * 29 of 40 AdA C.400s went to Aviation Populaire

C.401 - Phalène, higher power military liaison a/c
- C.401: 1 x 140 hp Renault Pei, span 11.62 m

C.410 - Phalène, post-war civilian C.401 conv.
- C.401: 140 hp Renault Pei, span 11.62 m, x 11

420
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The light bomber project of 1934 was appeared in this period,and it could
be any of those gaps ?.
 
Apophenia said:
C.581 - 1935 Single-seat aerobatic monoplane, x 2
- C.581: Rafale military aerobatic trainer
- C.581: 1 x 450 hp Renault 12R, span 7.70 m, area 9.00 m2
-- C.581 c/n 6939.1 (F-ANAS) converted C.580 airframe

590

C.600 - 1935 Aiglon 2-seat touring monoplane, x 178
- C.600G: 1 x DH Gipsy Major-powered version, x 5
- C.601: Aiglon Senior, 2 x 100 hp Renault 4Pei, x 18
-- KXC: Japanese desig. for C.601 evaluated by IJN
- C.610: Single-seat long-distance 'Raid' vers., x 2
-- C.610: F-ANSK, ex-C.600, increased fuel tankage
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May the Renault Tank Carrier aircraft project was in this period of 1935.
 

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