Can a modern carrier based fighter jam anti ship missile?

Can carrier fighter jam anti ship missiles?

  • Yes, they can act as secondary jamming source

    Votes: 2 40.0%

  • No, only dedicated jamming aircraft like EA-6 can do that

    Votes: 2 40.0%

  • No, only jammer on ship can

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • Total voters
    5
No, the rocket flies most of the flight on the INS, and only at the end turns on the mm range radar.
 
BBCRF said:
No, the rocket flies most of the flight on the INS, and only at the end turns on the mm range radar.
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Incorrect, AN/DSQ-28 seeker on AGM-84 , Philips AHD seeker on RBS-15 and ADAC seeker on Excocet all operate in I/J band around 10-15 Ghz.
ARGS-35E Seeker on Kh-35 and 3Ts25E Garpun E on P-15 operate in X band around 8-12 Ghz.
Radar seeker on subsonic ashm are designed to acquire surface ship from 20-30 km. For supersonic ashm, their seeker can acquire big destroyers from 50-60 km
 
Ronny said:
Радиолокационная система самонаведения на дозвуковых ashm предназначена для обнаружения надводного корабля на расстоянии 20-30 км. Для сверхзвуковых ashm их система самонаведения может обнаруживать крупные эсминцы на расстоянии 50-60 км.
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not true.Subsonic can detect destroyers at the same distance as supersonic
 
BBCRF said:
not true.Subsonic can detect destroyers at the same distance as supersonic
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No, supersonic antiship missile are often much bigger than subsonic missiles. As a result, their radar aperture area are also much bigger, that lead to longer detection range. Supersonic missiles also need to detect target from longer distance so that they can turn
 
It could in theory, but on practice - hardly. First of all, as it was mentioned already, modern anti-ship missiles switch their seeker on only when they are in target area. So the reaction time for the fighter would be pretty limited.

Secondly, onboard jammers on fighters - not specialized EW planes - aren't set to dealt with frequences and working parameters of anti-ship misisle seekers. So any kind of complicated decoying is out of question. At best, fighter could try to jam the seeker by emitting a broadband jamming signal. But it would merely complicate seeker operation, not blind it or lure it away.

Thirdly - the jamming signal would be in wrong position. Since fighter could not put itself between low-flying missile and the ship, it could not work on missile antenna main lobe. So it would be forced to work with sidelobes, which would greatly reduce jamming efficiency.
 
Ronny said:
No we don’t. If you want to say that source is nonsense, you should provide source with counter information
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To begin with, the X-35 has two different homing heads.At the request of the customer, one or the other can be selected
 
BBCRF said:
To begin with, the X-35 has two different homing heads.At the request of the customer, one or the other can be selected
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What are the name of those 2 seekers? and the source for your claims?. Besides how does that counter the fact that Kh-35 has x-band seeker?
 
Ronny said:
What are the name of those 2 seekers? and the source for your claims?. Besides how does that counter the fact that Kh-35 has x-band seeker?
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the facts of the range do not contradict, but I found no mention of either the X range or the frequency of radiation
 
Dilandu said:
It could in theory, but on practice - hardly. First of all, as it was mentioned already, modern anti-ship missiles switch their seeker on only when they are in target area. So the reaction time for the fighter would be pretty limited.
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This is depending a lot on launch mode. For example, in bearing on launch mode, the seeker turn on immediately after launch.
Supersonic missile also need to have their seeker turn on much sooner compared to subsonic missiles
Dilandu said:
Secondly, onboard jammers on fighters - not specialized EW planes - aren't set to dealt with frequences and working parameters of anti-ship misisle seekers. So any kind of complicated decoying is out of question. At best, fighter could try to jam the seeker by emitting a broadband jamming signal. But it would merely complicate seeker operation, not blind it or lure it away.

Thirdly - the jamming signal would be in wrong position. Since fighter could not put itself between low-flying missile and the ship, it could not work on missile antenna main lobe. So it would be forced to work with sidelobes, which would greatly reduce jamming efficiency.
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Pretty much all support screen jamming is just simple blank noise jamming, and support stand off and stand in jamming is very often done from the side lobes of the radar as well. It is much harder to blind air defense radar from stand of range compared to the tiny missile radar at close range
 
Dilandu said:
Secondly, onboard jammers on fighters - not specialized EW planes - aren't set to dealt with frequences and working parameters of anti-ship misisle seekers. So any kind of complicated decoying is out of question. At best, fighter could try to jam the seeker by emitting a broadband jamming signal. But it would merely complicate seeker operation, not blind it or lure it away.
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I found some data of ship base jammer after some digging around:
Spot,sweep, barrage jamming are common noise jamming technique used by aircraft
RGPO, RGPI, inverse gain, sub pulse masking, cross polarization, multi flase target are common deception jamming technique used by aircraft.
So at least there are some common jamming technique shared between ship base and aircraft base jammer

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