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Since Boeing has won the T-X contest, any idea on what the designation will be? Perhaps the T-7 following on to the T-6, or perhaps the "pre-1962" system as the T-49 or higher.


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Probably T-2020, since that's about the time frame it will operate in and it offers a clear vision of the future for advanced pilots. I wish I was kidding, but the old designation system is about dead. It's now about marketing; T-6 (A reference to the original WW2 NA Texan), the B-21 (not B-3, because it's a bomber for the 21st century), and whatever other programs they've played with the naming convention for better marketing.
 

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Actually the IOC date looks like 2024, with full capability by 2035(!) Why does it take so long for a relatively simple singe engine trainer to come on line?


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Do you know the company designation (Model-number) of this bird?
 

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tigercat2 said:
Perhaps the T-7 following on to the T-6, or perhaps the "pre-1962" system as the T-49 or higher.
... that would be T-54 or higher.
 

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tigercat2 said:
Actually the IOC date looks like 2024, with full capability by 2035(!) Why does it take so long for a relatively simple singe engine trainer to come on line?


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It looks like FOC coincides with the retirement of the T-38, so in this case, full operational capability may refer to having enough aircraft and ground systems to take over the full training workload rather than any specific capability development.
 

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Not sure on the model designation# - Boeing listed it as BTX-1 when applying for the two N#s they have been flying under.

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Andreas Parsch said:
tigercat2 said:
Perhaps the T-7 following on to the T-6, or perhaps the "pre-1962" system as the T-49 or higher.
... that would be T-54 or higher.
If the USAF goes for the post-1962 series, would the next designation be T-7?

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It would be odd for them to revert to the T-7 since they've assigned T-53 more recently. T-6 was the aberration, used to force the nostalgic link between the WW2-era T-6 Texan and the new T-6 Texan II.

I hope we'll see the Boeing TX become the T-54, but I could see them skipping over both T-54 and T-55 to avoid Google collisions with the Soviet tanks.
 

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Brilliant idea; T-21 for the 21st Century. Sort of like the way, way, way out of sequence B-21 for the 21st Century. Too bad that the C-21 was recently used for the Lear, and the F-21 for the Kfir.


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tigercat2 said:
Brilliant idea; T-21 for the 21st Century. Sort of like the way, way, way out of sequence B-21 for the 21st Century. Too bad that the C-21 was recently used for the Lear, and the F-21 for the Kfir.
Comparing the time, when aircraft, like B-52 and T-38 have been intoduced to service, their replacement's should be used during wholed 21st century.

T-38 is till operational, with maiden flight in 1958.
B-52 - as well, with maiden flight in 1952.

Perhaps, modern aircraft should be designed with the provision for service life for a centuries, not decades?
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tigercat2 said:
Brilliant idea; T-21 for the 21st Century. Sort of like the way, way, way out of sequence B-21 for the 21st Century. Too bad that the C-21 was recently used for the Lear, and the F-21 for the Kfir.
Comparing the time, when aircraft, like B-52 and T-38 have been intoduced to service, their replacement's should be used during wholed 21st century.

T-38 is till operational, with maiden flight in 1958.
B-52 - as well, with maiden flight in 1952.
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Perhaps, modern aircraft should be designed with the provision for service life for a centuries, not decades?
:cool:
You are correct; the Boeing T-X will probably be in service for 80% of the 21st century!


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Its amazing to imagine something that looked like it was designed in the 1970's to be flying in the year 2099.

Disappointed. I know it might be "affordable" whatever it ends up ultimately costing, but was hoping for something more innovative and inspirational like the T-38 was when it first appeared.

My guess will be designated T-57/58
 

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There have been no fundamental changes in the understanding of transonic aerodynamics in the last 50 years. Why would it look different?
 

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Because fashion.
 

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Not just fashion...although looks count for something in aircraft and fighters/trainers?

You're right and I agree...

Yet was just hoping for more inspiration in the design and something more versatile (like the Mako
Heat) something that could have filled other roles like a viable "Red Air" threat. Why not design a future trainer with Aggressor role, training role (currently), and also as an affordable alternative that could be produced in numbers.

I was hoping that affordable manufacturing was going to make a high performance Bird of Prey or Mako Heat type of aircraft. The Bird of Prey was testing low cost manufacture tech itself wasn't it?

Trainer, Red air, and as a "numbers" aircraft that could supplement more expensive. And if stealth is the main focus of US fighter doctrine, why not make the trainer look like it was meant to operate in a 21st century environment.
 

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I very much think that red air is part of what T-X will do. The kind of Red-Air the T-38 embedded in F-22 squadrons do presently: deploy and provide dynamic training at squadron level sparing Raptor flight hours and logistics.
The T-X is build to be easily/cheaply maintained while providing range and dynamics flight hours as suited.
 

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We'll see if the Boeing T-X is designated T-4 or T-54 (remember that the T-6 was assigned out of sequence for the T-6 Texan II to honor of T-6 Texan of WW2).
 

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It would be odd for them to revert to the T-7 since they've assigned T-53 more recently. T-6 was the aberration, used to force the nostalgic link between the WW2-era T-6 Texan and the new T-6 Texan II.

I hope we'll see the Boeing TX become the T-54, but I could see them skipping over both T-54 and T-55 to avoid Google collisions with the Soviet tanks.
Agree. But skipping over T-54 and T-55 is ridiculous because T-54 and T-55 are tanks (T stands for tanka=tank).
 
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