BAC Thunderbold/BAe CFAM MANPADS Proposal to Brazil?

[TinWing]

Here is JackEHammond's post at Keypublishing:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=64267

The picture that Jazz posted seems to illustrate TVC, but I can't really be sure?

Here is the BAC Thunderbold brochure JackEHammond posted Army Recognition:

http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1743#1743[/url]

I really have to wonder about the dimensions and weights of this missile?

The winning entry to this contest, Starstreak had a 5 inch/127 mm launch tube diameter and a launch tube length of less than 1.4 meters.

 

[JAZZ]

BAe CFAM (Common Forward Area Missile) low cost antiarmour and anti-helicopter missile built on the experience BAE gained during work on the British Army's requirement for a high volocity missile system to supplement the Tracked Rapier. BAe's entry was the Thunderbolt.

BAe then became involved with Orbita Sistemas Aerospaciais SA in the development of a low altitude SAM system for the Brazilian Army.

CFAM performace put at mach 4, 5000m range. Missile is 60mm in diameter and has overall length of 1.5m. For control it relies mainly on body lift with 4 hot-gas lateral thrusters arranged around the forebody of the spinning missile.

This information was takem from Jane's Defense Weekly...my problem as it ran over two pages my A4 photocopy does not have the date and page number at the bottom.

Does any one know of the Marconi close air defense weapon (SR-SAM) or the Drop-nose short range missile seen as a replacement for starstreak. ?

 

[TinWing]

BAe CFAM (Common Forward Area Missile) low cost antiarmour and anti-helicopter missile built on the experience BAE gained during work on the British Army's requirement for a high volocity missile system to supplement the Tracked Rapier. BAe's entry was the Thunderbolt.

BAe then became involved with Orbita Sistemas Aerospaciais SA in the development of a low altitude SAM system for the Brazilian Army.

CFAM performace put at mach 4, 5000m range. Missile is 60mm in diameter and has overall length of 1.5m. For control it relies mainly on body lift with 4 hot-gas lateral thrusters arranged around the forebody of the spinning missile.

This information was takem from Jane's Defense Weekly...my problem as it ran over two pages my A4 photocopy does not have the date and page number at the bottom.

Does any one know of the Marconi close air defense weapon (SR-SAM) or the Drop-nose short range missile seen as a replacement for starstreak. ?

Wow, thanks for the dimensions and performance specs.

 

[Grey Havoc]

Via Think Defence, the vehicle mounted version of Thunderbolt on a Stormer chassis:

 

[AN/AWW-14(V)]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1165598171042668544

 

[A Tentative Fleet Plan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1556391788830752768

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/thinkdefence/status/1556391788830752768

 

[TomS]

"Lost out to Starstreak"

With the addition of Martlet to Starstreak, it seems like we're coming pretty much full circle.

 

[blackknight]

Do anybody know what kind of guidance used by Thunderbolt?

 

[Voltzz]

The third of the missiles is MSA-3.1, which Orbita is developing in collaboration with British Aerospace. It is a shoulder-launched surface-to-air high-velocity missile and a further development of the Thunderbolt system originally devised by British Aerospace to meet a British Army requirement.
It is guided by an automatic-command-to-line-of-sight system, through a digital laser link, using a stabilized sight and an auto-tracker which follows the missile’s flare.
The MSA-3.1 missile has a diameter of only 60mm but a length of 1,510mm, most of which is accounted for by its solid propellant motor that gives it a velocity of 1,300m/s, or Mach 3.9, and a maximum range of 6km. The nose of the missile contains a kinetic energy warhead with a tungsten annular cutter. Together with its launch tube the missile has a mass of 12.5kg and the mass of complete system, including the sight and guidance unit is 18.7kg.

IDR 4/1988