Augmented cooling radiators

Beguines ducts were partially made of molded plywood. It could've been a ramjet with a new center section.
What? Where did you find that? Plz post a link.
No one is questioning that the oil and glycol cooling was moved from the belly to the wing tips. But, plywood? Link please... I don't mind being a monkey. K
 
Yes, hoping for Meredith effect...wish there were better pictures
 
A few sources say so, most notably a contemporary issue of Automotive Engineering
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The intake is a wood color in several photos
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Thanks all for those comments. I'd just note that what I mean by "augmentation" is some kind of additional energy input. Simple aerodynamic shaping to channel the airflow is not really augmentation, but a useful addition to the discussion nonetheless.
Air racers use a methanol-water spray across their radiators to increase heat transfer, which should also provide some additional thrust due to the additional mass being accelerated out the back of the Meredith duct. (I'd need to know mass flow rates and exhaust velocity to tell you how much)



It could have been troublesome to cool the aircraft on the ground, without the slipstream of the prop...
That basically only matters on landing. With all the coolant that needs to warm up, you've probably got 10 minutes on the ground after cold start before you're going to see heat problems. Land, taxi off the runway, shut down ASAP. Getting towed back to your spot in the pits is acceptable under the rules.
 
The water/Methanol mixture (GM1) is injeted after the CAC into the intake air. On the outside, only water is used.
 
A few sources say so, most notably a contemporary issue of Automotive Engineering
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Tonnes of arguments out there about the belly oil and glycol coolers Meredith effect. Most say it was a wash (which is a good thing)...but an extra
3% thrust to drag would alway be welcome.
As to the wing tip coolers... Who knows.
But, I do agree they look like Fury wing tip tanks with foward and aft segments cut off where diameters would be appropriate for the effect.
 
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The water/Methanol mixture (GM1) is injeted after the CAC into the intake air. On the outside, only water is used.
I thought they were using water/methanol outside as well, since the methanol boils at lower temperatures. Means you can conceivably run the cooling system at 180degF instead of 225+.
 
The partial pressure is determin the boiling temperature. You can dry your washed cloth by hanging them on a line even when the temperature is far below 100 deg Celsius. A thin water layer on the cooler will also turn to steam in the cooling air, even if the temperature is far below 100 C.

There is no liquid with an higher evaporation heat than water.

Can some native English speaker please explain, why this thread has the title "augmented cooling radiators"?
 
The partial pressure is determin the boiling temperature. You can dry your washed cloth by hanging them on a line even when the temperature is far below 100 deg Celsius. A thin water layer on the cooler will also turn to steam in the cooling air, even if the temperature is far below 100 C.

There is no liquid with an higher evaporation heat than water.

Can some native English speaker please explain, why this thread has the title "augmented cooling radiators"?
I assume the full title should be "Augmented thrust cooling radiators"
 
Great find, is there more information about that in the Journal?

At first glance, I found it irritating that the front of the wing is directed downwards and that the sights are (American style) opposed positioned as we do it Germany... However, everybody is free to orient the front on a paper in any direction. Still the opening of the radiator is offset outwards to the cooler in the front view, which is not the case in the top view.

Like in the Beguine, the entrance is larger hat the exit. I find it quite surprising, that there are no exhaust flaps which are usually required to gain thrust with a cooler. The round cross section would have been suited for an axial movable needle to control the exhaust cross section (like e.g. in Pelton turbines or aerospikes).
 
You already mentioned superfluids allready a couple of times, please try not to spoil every thread with themes which are totally off topic. If anybody want to discuss superfluif behauvior it is possible to do it in several older threats, but please not here, unless there is a direct connection to radiators...


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Great find, is there more information about that in the Journal?

At first glance, I found it irritating that the front of the wing is directed downwards and that the sights are (American style) opposed positioned as we do it Germany... However, everybody is free to orient the front on a paper in any direction. Still the opening of the radiator is offset outwards to the cooler in the front view, which is not the case in the top view.

Like in the Beguine, the entrance is larger hat the exit. I find it quite surprising, that there are no exhaust flaps which are usually required to gain thrust with a cooler. The round cross section would have been suited for an axial movable needle to control the exhaust cross section (like e.g. in Pelton turbines or aerospikes).
Since it's for a race plane, I would assume that it's optimized for maximum speed, and they left any variable-inlet/outlet bits off to save weight. A normal plane would have some flaps.

Having such a large mass of water would increase time to warm up on the ground, which is acceptable in a race plane, and it'd have to shut down quickly once landed and they lose all the air flow. A standard Mustang would have an advantage here, since the centerline radiator is in the prop wash while these wingtip radiators are solely depending on forward airspeed.

I'd further assume that it has some electric water pumps to keep the water moving without the engine running, and that they'd hook up some blower fans to cool the engine between races.
 
You might be right, but adjusting the cross section (e.g. by replaceable cones) for every outside temperature for the race is easier said than done. Without that, you always need to be on the save side and will loose some potential.

I didn't realize that the Horkey design was intended for a race plane, I thought it would be something out of WW2 (The mentioning of the Area rule, clearly indicates that it must be more modern...).
 
You might be right, but adjusting the cross section (e.g. by replaceable cones) for every outside temperature for the race is easier said than done. Without that, you always need to be on the save side and will loose some potential.

I didn't realize that the Horkey design was intended for a race plane, I thought it would be something out of WW2 (The mentioning of the Area rule, clearly indicates that it must be more modern...).
Almost all the plane races were summertime and 90+degF (minimum).
 

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