Antonov An-148/158/178 Family & Developments

[flateric]

http://mil.in.ua/novyny/vtl-an-178-bude-litaty-vzhe-v-2012-rotsi

 

[Triton]

Nice find flateric! The Antonov An-178 is a new 15-ton payload military transport that will use the wing, tail fins, and cockpit of the new Anotnov An-158 regional jet. The new aircraft is intended to replace the Antonov An-12.

The article mentions that the An-178 is a competitor to the UAC/HAL MRTA.

Source:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3A27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3Aacf27c6d-7a6f-4f51-9780-bc704c72cfab&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

 

[T-50]

Nice project by Antonov, it could be a winner.Because its familiar with the new An-158 airliner make it a cheap but good alternative for country's with little defence budgets

 

[Jemiba]

As a side note, the artist impression in the fourth picture of Flaterics first post
is described in the Air International 08/2010 as the Il-214 based MTA. ???

 

[SmithW6079]

Compared to the An-12, does the relatively low placement of the turbofans on the An-178 create problems with FOD in rough field situations or is that ability inconsequential?

 

[Trident]

I would think so, whether that disadvantage is inconsequential would be for the customer to determine. This aircraft appears to be a company funded effort by Antonov, taking advantage of existing work on the An-158 as much as possible, as opposed to being a response to a concrete specification.

 

[Matej]

Farnborough 2010

 

[Triton]

Model of Antonov An-168 MP on display at MAKS 2011.

Model of Antonov An-168 MP on display at Paris Airshow Le Bourget 2011.

Sources:
http://77rus.smugmug.com/Military/MAKS-2011/18701039_gg5V6p/42
http://worldwide-defence.blogspot.com/2011/07/paris-airshow-le-bourget-2011.html
http://www.aviaport.ru/conferences/18875/204.html

 

[Triton]

Model of Antonov An-178 on display at MAKS 2011.

Model of Antonov An-178 on display at Paris Airshow Le Bourget 2011.

Source:
http://77rus.smugmug.com/Military/MAKS-2011/18701039_gg5V6p/42
http://worldwide-defence.blogspot.com/2011/07/paris-airshow-le-bourget-2011.html
http://www.aviaport.ru/conferences/18875/204.html

 

[Stargazer]

Triton, two pics in the first batch represent the An-74T-200MP, NOT the An-168MP !!!

 

[Triton]

Triton, two pics in the first batch represent the An-74T-200MP, NOT the An-168MP !!!

Pictures of the Antonov An-74T-200MP model removed.

 

[Stargazer]

The Antonov An-158 at Le Bourget last Saturday:

 

[Triton]

Model of Antonov An-178

Source:
http://forum.milua.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=9704&start=60

 

[fightingirish]

Here some pictures of the An-178 found with Google Picture Search.


Due to the situation between Ukraine and Russia, IMHO this project is put to a halt or even dead. :-\

 

[Deino]

To admit I did not know that this type already progressed so far ... but what now !??

 

[Grey Havoc]

Good question.

 

[Deino]

To admit the only viable Option I see is once again China !!

Especialyl given the already Close cooperation between Shaanxi and/or Xi'an with Antonov with the Y-9 and Y-20, this type could well be the Basis for the reported Y-X twin-turbofan Transport, which is said to be under development for the PLAAF .... ???

 

[Moose]

To admit the only viable Option I see is once again China !!

Turkey and India are better options.

 

[Deino]

Why India ??? India has currently it's own cooperation project in a similar class together with Ilyushin - the MTA/Il-214 - and both Xian and Shaanxi have a well established cooperation with Antonov !

For Turkey I really don't know ????

 

[yasotay]

Frankly I think Antonov will team with whomever is interested and has the liquidity to back it up at this point. With the number of competitors for one of their core competence areas they have to engage.

 

[fightingirish]

The Antonov An-178 transport aircraft was rolled out on Thursday 16 April in Kiev.


Videos:
https://youtu.be/Ec8E9uMqVK8

https://youtu.be/Pbz_E02RcNQ

https://youtu.be/Ec8E9uMqVK8
https://youtu.be/Pbz_E02RcNQ

Pictures:
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1267170.html
http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/656563.html


Links found by Deino.

 

[fightingirish]

Just only three weeks after the rollout, the new Antonov An-178 medium transport aircraft took flight for the first time near Kiev on Thursday, May 7th 2015.

07-05-2015 / The AN−178 has performed maiden flight
On May 7, 2015, the AN−178 new transport, created by ANTONOV in cooperation with partners from 15 countries, performed maiden flight.


The first 1 hour duration flight performed a crew of ANTONOV test pilots, composed of: Andrii Spasibo, test pilot of the 1st class – the crew captain, Sergii Troshyn, test pilot of the 1st class, Hero of Ukraine – the 2nd pilot, Mykola Sydorenko, leading test engineer. After landing in Kyiv−Antonov airport (Gostomel) the crew reported on a successful flight task realization to Dmytro Kiva, President – General Designer.

Link: http://www.antonov.com/news/385
Picture source: http://www.antonov.com

More pictures at:
http://prosto-vova.livejournal.com/2886066.html

Amateur video:
https://youtu.be/vTjTl4sEDlo

https://youtu.be/vTjTl4sEDlo

 

[fightingirish]

[...]Antonov confirms 10 transports as being on order from launch customer Silkway Airlines, "as well as a protocol of intent" with the Chinese company Beijing A-Star Airspace and Technology. The Chinese partners have expressed their intention to purchase two An-178s, and to also consider the prospect of Ukrainian construction of a "transporter in China", says the airframer.[...]

Source: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/an-178-transport-makes-1h-debut-flight-412082/


Maybe a new Chinese Y-## on the horizon? Just like a mini-me of the Xian Y-20.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is the Antonov An-178 from Авиация и Время 2/2015

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is the Antonov An-148T Project.


Lotnictwo 2015-07

 

[fightingirish]

Some information and that picture are also mentioned in an article regarding the An-178 by Piotr Butowski in the the July 2015 issue of the Air International magazine.

FUTURE AN-148T
Antonov is also designing a low-cost variant of the An-148 with a loading ramp. The An-148T would differ from the passenger An-148 only in the lowered floor and new rear section of the fuselage with a loading ramp. The aircraft retains the An-148’s 29.13m (95.6ft) length and 28.90m (94.8ft) wingspan. The cargo compartment length is 12.67m (41.6ft) without the ramp, width at the floor 2.85m (9.3ft) and height 1.99m (6.5ft). The An-148T will carry a maximum payload of 10,000kg (22,046lb) over 3,000km (1,864 miles) at a maximum speed of 445kts (825km/h).

Source: Piotr Butowski - THE LATEST ANTONOV - Air International July 2015 - page 6 to 9


I wouldn't be surprised if this version would be also built under licence in Iran.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Rolf.

 

[fightingirish]

defence-blog.com -Antonov to produce new airborne early warning and control aircraft for Ukrainian Air Force
The pictures look premature, but it looks like a Swedish Erieye radar system is been implemented on Ukraine’s An-148DRLV airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft.

 

[Grey Havoc]

Given that Antonov is already struggling to meet existing commitments, I'm a bit dubious.

 

[TomcatViP]

3x more 178 for Ukraine AF and a new version (lot of pictures on the manufacturing line) :

Ukraine orders three An-178 planes for army for first time - Zelensky

 

[Anduriel]

3x more 178 for Ukraine AF and a new version (lot of pictures on the manufacturing line) :

Ukraine orders three An-178 planes for army for first time - Zelensky

Well, perhaps Antonov finally have some work to support itself aside from Antonov airlines.
Still, if some Ukrainian sources to be believed, govt itself will not give money for Antonov. Intead it will guarantee a credit from Ukreximbank which Antonov will use to build the plane.
Considering volatile internal Ukrainian politics and rampant corruption it makes me wonder if it's not an somewhat elaborate scheme to make Antonov bankrupt and force govt to sell it.

 

[riggerrob]

How does this latest Antonov 178 compare with the Brazilian KC-90 or Japanese C-2?
We already know that KC-90 is about 2/3 the weight of the C-2.

 

[helmutkohl]

isnt the C-2 also a totally different weight class from the AN-178 as well?

 

[TomcatViP]

An-178<C-130<KC-390<C-2
A400M being roughly in C-2 class except the availability rate being around a low 1 in 7.

 

[boxkite]

3x more 178 for Ukraine AF and a new version (lot of pictures on the manufacturing line) :

Ukraine orders three An-178 planes for army for first time - Zelensky

Well, perhaps Antonov finally have some work to support itself aside from Antonov airlines.
Still, if some Ukrainian sources to be believed, govt itself will not give money for Antonov. Intead it will guarantee a credit from Ukreximbank which Antonov will use to build the plane.
Considering volatile internal Ukrainian politics and rampant corruption it makes me wonder if it's not an somewhat elaborate scheme to make Antonov bankrupt and force govt to sell it.

Is anybody able to identify all the versions of this Antonov aircraft family shown on the tables (https://static.ukrinform.com/photos/2020_12/thumb_files/630_360_1609242542-4588.jpeg)? Or does a picture of them exist in better resolution?

 

[Anduriel]

Is anybody able to identify all the versions of this Antonov aircraft family shown on the tables (https://static.ukrinform.com/photos/2020_12/thumb_files/630_360_1609242542-4588.jpeg)? Or does a picture of them exist in better resolution?
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The best I could find is this: https://z4h5g2w8.stackpathcdn.com/w...18_2239885589489629_9056407195987716157_o.jpg

 

[TomcatViP]

If NATO could give them a push...

I see a larger 178 (probably with increased MTOW), a large 188 , an-70 shaped, 4 engined and then, far left right the C-17.

 

[stealthflanker]

If NATO could give them a push...

I see a larger 178 (probably with increased MTOW), a large 188, 4 engined and then, far left, the C-17.

It probably the thing that became Y-20.

 

[TomcatViP]

IMO Y-20 has way more wing span that the shape silhouetted here.
Notice also that I slightly edited my poorly inspirated post above.

 

[TomcatViP]

Antonov completes first An-178-100P fuselage for Ukrainian Air Force

Ukrainian airlifter specialist Antonov has completed the major fuselage structure for the first An-178 military cargo aircraft. On Thursday, the Antonov rolled out the first fuselage for the advanced version of its new cargo plane in AN-178-100P configuration. The new aircraft developed for the...

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