An unofficial Austro-Hungarian super-dreadnought project（1913）

[Torsionbar]

In “Mitteilungen aus dem Gebiete des Seewesens Band.42/1914”，k. u. k. Linienschiffsleutnant Konstantin Žemplén published a paper discussing future super-dreadnoughts.
Basic characteristics:
37000t
L 220m, B 30.3m, T 8.6m
8-10*38cm/40
12*17cm/50
30*9cm/50
6-8*25mm machine gun
Belt：100+250mm
65000~70000hp
24~25kts
May be planned to carry aircraft
Unfortunately, the general plan was not fully scanned; the University of Michigan holds a copy of this book, and hopefully, the complete version will be available in the future.

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[Tzoli]

Interesting! I wait till the entire section is scanned. But apparently it was a naval officer's proposal (38cm/40 cannon was never introduced, though it might formed the basis of the later 38cm/45 K19 gun)
That nose section with 5x 88mm guns seems to be quite crowded.
25mm Machine Guns? The Empire never wielded such calibre to my knowledge (both land and naval forces)
Also I find the note will carry aircraft dubious because the naval air arm was not founded until 1916 and as usual army-navy rivalization was present and the army monopolized the airforce.

 

[Torsionbar]

Interesting! I wait till the entire section is scanned. But apparently it was a naval officer's proposal (38cm/40 cannon was never introduced, though it might formed the basis of the later 38cm/45 K19 gun)
That nose section with 5x 88mm guns seems to be quite crowded.
25mm Machine Guns? The Empire never wielded such calibre to my knowledge (both land and naval forces)
Also I find the note will carry aircraft dubious because the naval air arm was not founded until 1916 and as usual army-navy rivalization was present and the army monopolized the airforce.

Yes, many of the designs were idealized concepts not grounded in reality. The author sought a machine gun with a caliber of 15–25 mm and a rate of fire of 50–100 rounds per minute; he scoffed at the prevailing ideas regarding ship-borne torpedo boats but was keenly interested in the concept of ship-borne aircraft. This is likely reflected in the sketches.

 

[Roodbaard1958!]

In “Mitteilungen aus dem Gebiete des Seewesens Band.42/1914”，k. u. k. Linienschiffsleutnant Konstantin Žemplén published a paper discussing future super-dreadnoughts.
Basic characteristics:
37000t
L 220m, B 30.3m, T 8.6m
8-10*38cm/40
12*17cm/50
30*9cm/50
6-8*25mm machine gun
Belt：100+250mm
65000~70000hp
24~25kts
May be planned to carry aircraft
Unfortunately, the general plan was not fully scanned; the University of Michigan holds a copy of this book, and hopefully, the complete version will be available in the future.
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In “Mitteilungen aus dem Gebiete des Seewesens Band.42/1914”，k. u. k. Linienschiffsleutnant Konstantin Žemplén published a paper discussing future super-dreadnoughts.
Basic characteristics:
37000t
L 220m, B 30.3m, T 8.6m
8-10*38cm/40
12*17cm/50
30*9cm/50
6-8*25mm machine gun
Belt：100+250mm
65000~70000hp
24~25kts
May be planned to carry aircraft
Unfortunately, the general plan was not fully scanned; the University of Michigan holds a copy of this book, and hopefully, the complete version will be available in the future.
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It is voluem 42 from the year 1916 but which heft (=part). The article is published in part No. 9. I can't find the drawing

In “Mitteilungen aus dem Gebiete des Seewesens Band.42/1914”，k. u. k. Linienschiffsleutnant Konstantin Žemplén published a paper discussing future super-dreadnoughts.
Basic characteristics:
37000t
L 220m, B 30.3m, T 8.6m
8-10*38cm/40
12*17cm/50
30*9cm/50
6-8*25mm machine gun
Belt：100+250mm
65000~70000hp
24~25kts
May be planned to carry aircraft
Unfortunately, the general plan was not fully scanned; the University of Michigan holds a copy of this book, and hopefully, the complete version will be available in the future.
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On which page or which part is the partly missinf drawing published, the article self in Volume 1942 of the year 1914 part No. 9 (Heft)

 

[Torsionbar]

It is voluem 42 from the year 1916 but which heft (=part). The article is published in part No. 9. I can't find the drawing

On which page or which part is the partly missinf drawing published, the article self in Volume 1942 of the year 1914 part No. 9 (Heft)

Between page 930 and page 931

 

[Roodbaard1958!]

Between page 930 and page 931

Thx for quick response, I had a digital copy from another organisation, but there is the drawing missing, so I hope you have more success

 

[Tzoli]

Weirdly the engine power, speed and main armament is comparable to the Project III Battleship, while tonnage is comparable to the Project V and armour is comparable to the Ersatz Monarch class!

 

[Tzoli]

I've sent an email to Mihály Krámli, he is the most nonweldable person in Hungary about the KuK.

Also the belt armour is quite unique? A vertical part of 100mm over the waterline, with a inclined 250mm behind it and a 180mm above it?