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Does 3"/70 (7.62 cm) Mark 37 have the potential to shoot at the sea. WNUS_3-70_mk37_Norfolk_pic (1).jpg Just like British 3"/70 (7.62 cm) Mark VI？
DL1 NOFORK known as a destoryer killer（ddk）and it has four mountings of this type，but i can't find any ammo about this gun that can attack sea target.
so how NOFORK anti ships？
 
Up to around 1960 at least, she was equipped with Mark 35 torpedoes that had a secondary Anti-Ship role. Not sure what 21" torpedoes she used after that time. The ASROC system she was fitted with in 1960 (the first one in operational service IIRC) did have an emergency ASuW capability though, if I am not mistaken.
 
I only found, too, that it was a dedicated ASW ship, so a submarine killer, carrying the voluminous Weapon Alpha.
The "DL" (Destroyer Leader) classification somehow could imply an ASuW role, of course, but the description
"oceanic escort" rather fits an ASW/AA ship, with an emergency ASuW role, as mentioned by Grey.
And the "DDK" classification, AFAIK, was later changed into "DDE" anyway, describing ships with mainly an
ASW role, though I couldn't find a "DDK Norfolk". Where is that information from ?
 
The DDK destroyer killer designation indicated a submarine hunter - ie the destroyer was the killer, rather than destroyers being the target. It was applied to the Carpenter Class Modified Gearings which were the interim ASW capability the Norfolk class was supposed to replace.
 
trajan said:
Does 3"/70 (7.62 cm) Mark 37 have the potential to shoot at the sea.
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Why not? They could reach almost 18 km range on optimal elevation. Granted, their shells weren't exactly impressive, but she could threw them in numbers, and a large enough amount of 3-inch hits would certainly disable any destroyer.

It's just that her role wasn't exactly to fight surface actions. She was escort/hunter-killer ship, designed mainly to hunt submarines, and protect battlegroups from air attacks.
 
Jemiba said:
I only found, too, that it was a dedicated ASW ship, so a submarine killer, carrying the voluminous Weapon Alpha.
The "DL" (Destroyer Leader) classification somehow could imply an ASuW role, of course, but the description
"oceanic escort" rather fits an ASW/AA ship, with an emergency ASuW role, as mentioned by Grey.
And the "DDK" classification, AFAIK, was later changed into "DDE" anyway, describing ships with mainly an
ASW role, though I couldn't find a "DDK Norfolk". Where is that information from ?
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It seems that there is a problem with my eyes, the original text is indeed CLK（x_x；）
 
It was the culmination of war experience and the fear that the Soviets will build massive number of Type XXI like submarines which are much faster and quieter then previous ones. The USN was very afraid of them because the usual Sonar and Depth Charge / Hedgehog tactics became quite ineffective against them (Detection time, Approach Time and Destruction/Attack Time VS Submarine Attack Time) This fear lead to ever longer ranged ASW weapons culminating in the ASROC.
The USN had plenty of Cruisers and newly built Destroyers (Fletchers, Sumners, Gearings) for the anti surface and surface escort role. And then came the post war generation the prototype Mitchsers then the more successful Forrest Shermans and Farraguts. Though because of the high costs of the new systems (radars, guns, sonars, sustained high speed and range) they could not be produced in high numbers like the WW2 classes and the admirals worried they would end up with a large number of old destroyers when a new war erupts just like after WW1 when the USN ended with a ton of Wickeses and Clemsons which were by WW2 more then outdated!
 
Does anybody know how would the cancelled sister ship of Norfolk to be named?
Ahh just found it
USS New Haven (nice name)
 
Dilandu said:
trajan said:
Does 3"/70 (7.62 cm) Mark 37 have the potential to shoot at the sea.
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Why not? They could reach almost 18 km range on optimal elevation. Granted, their shells weren't exactly impressive, but she could threw them in numbers, and a large enough amount of 3-inch hits would certainly disable any destroyer...
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And the US Mark 37 Mod 0 mount had -15° depression which would seem sufficient to engage surface targets (+90° elevation for aerial targets). As for the relationship with the British 3"/70 Mark VI, similar piece, different mounts.

-- http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_3-70_mk37.php
 

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