Baykar Tech Kızılelma News and Developments

@Combat-Master and I have agreed that this bad boi deserves a separate thread of its own.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1836437832048513366
View: https://x.com/Selcuk/status/1836437832048513366
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From now on, please use only this thread for Kizilelma news; we're reserving the "Turkish UAV Developments & Fielding" thread for TB-2/3, Anka, Aksungur and Akinci since these drones are not analogous to turbofan powered Kizilelma or Anka-3 at all...
 
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I wonder when the IWB tests will begin...

The PT-3 carries a Teber-82 kit externally in asymmetrical configuration.

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Though I do think these are past tests, and they're only now releasing the clips one by one, since it's supposed to be inducted into service in 2026.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HGODG-XQ1s
 
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Combat-Master said:
TOLUN SDB Munition Linked Flight Test | 10th Flight test of Prototype 3
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkGeXkGwl6I


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The PT-3 carries a Teber-82 kit externally in asymmetrical configuration.


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snne said:
I wonder when the IWB tests will begin...

The PT-3 carries a Teber-82 kit externally in asymmetrical configuration.

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Though I do think these are past tests, and they're only now releasing the clips one by one, since it's supposed to be inducted into service in 2026.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HGODG-XQ1s
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We have a dedicated Kizilelma thread, people...
 
Canardzz said:
Kızılelma PT5 conducts maiden flight.

View: https://youtu.be/cxK7xQsDX9Q?si=NxDuweX0gO8nR2s1


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Low-viz flag, coupled with serrations we haven't seen before.


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And no air data boom! What a looker honestly...
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No more close up shots, they probably don't want to reveal more of their anti-radar measures but there is enough to conclude trailing edge treatment and RAM. And no air data boom means possible radar integration.

This Kizilelma prototype is dedicated for air-to-air.
 
Canardzz said:
Kızılelma PT5 conducts maiden flight.

View: https://youtu.be/cxK7xQsDX9Q?si=NxDuweX0gO8nR2s1


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Low-viz flag, coupled with serrations we haven't seen before.


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And no air data boom! What a looker honestly...
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MURAD-100A wEn??

Seriously though, it looks like a serious LRIP-representative prototype, which is already overdue since it is supposed to be inducted next year.

I also hope to see actual IWB doors this time; they never show the underbelly.

How many AI-322-30F engines do they even have for there to be 5 prototypes besides the LRIP planes?!
 
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Waterballoon said:
No more close up shots, they probably don't want to reveal more of their anti-radar measures but there is enough to conclude trailing edge treatment and RAM. And no air data boom means possible radar integration.

This Kizilelma prototype is dedicated for air-to-air.
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Damn, those serrations on the trailing edge of the rudder is well done almost didn't see it, good spotting

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Some PT-5 pics Selcuk Bayraktar shared;

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Combat-Master said:
Italian delegation at Baykar Techs facility, joined by Roketsan's GM - potential first bomb drop test for Kızılelma?

They seem to be overly excited, for just takeoffs..
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1975263157959672225
View: https://x.com/BaykarTech/status/1975263157959672225

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Italian operated Akinci -
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1975273092789174428
View: https://x.com/CiroNappi6/status/1975273092789174428
 
Combat-Master said:
It could probably take off from TCG Anadolu, but not land without arresting gear.. they are constructing an actual aircraft carrier with arresting gear to handle Kizilelma and larger aircraft without STOVL.. https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/turkish-aircraft-carrier-concept.43031/
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See at the early stages of this project I was given the impression that they would perform carrier ops testing on Anadolu as they did with the TB3, Is there no chance that a UCAV/Loyal Wingman can land without arresting gear? Just asking for a friend (the Royal Navy)
 
TylrrTylrr said:
See at the early stages of this project I was given the impression that they would perform carrier ops testing on Anadolu as they did with the TB3, Is there no chance that a UCAV/Loyal Wingman can land without arresting gear? Just asking for a friend (the Royal Navy)
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Purely as a hypothetical technicality, it might have been possible if there wasn't a stern elevator. But it would have required significant changes, not just to the flight deck, but to the aircraft as well.

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Can it not generate enough lift at a low speed to only use its disc brakes? Similar to a SRVL but without a lift fan
 
TylrrTylrr said:
See at the early stages of this project I was given the impression that they would perform carrier ops testing on Anadolu as they did with the TB3, Is there no chance that a UCAV/Loyal Wingman can land without arresting gear? Just asking for a friend (the Royal Navy)
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Absolutely not as of yet. This has already been discussed by the Navy DPO (Design Project Office), Turkish Loyd, and, lastly, Baykar. We asked the Turkish MoD this question during the last Denizkurdu (Sea Wolf-I 2025) Exercise. It is physically not possible for KE to land on TCG Anadolu without arresting gear for safety reasons. Even with the arrestor system installed, they are not sure if it would be feasible considering the length and width of the flight deck (especially during emergencies).
 
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Absolutely not as of yet. This has already been discussed by the Navy DPO (Design Project Office), Turkish Loyd, and, lastly, Baykar. We asked the Turkish MoD this question during the last Denizkurdu (Sea Wolf-I 2025) Exercise. It is physically not possible for KE to land on TCG Anadolu without arresting gear for safety reasons. Even with the arrestor system installed, they are not sure if it would be feasible considering the length and width of the flight deck (especially during emergencies).
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damn, this is why project VANQUISH confuses me
 
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two questions if i may.

1. these sensors(radar, eots, irst) can be considered precursors to KAAN's subsytems. if they are ready for the drones then i would expect the KAAN P1 to have these sensors from day one. does that make sense? have we seen any reports on P1's sensors?

2. is/will BAYKAR be able to develop in-house search and track software for ASELSAN supplied sensors?
 
OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE IN FLIGHT TESTS
The system demonstrated outstanding performance during two separate flight tests conducted within the last week at the AKINCI Flight Training and Test Center in Çorlu. The tests successfully validated stable image generation at various altitude and speed regimes, long-range tracking stability on moving targets, and high-accuracy laser designation functions. It was confirmed that the system maintained seamless data exchange with KIZILELMA’s integrated mission computer and preserved its performance even under demanding environmental conditions. The results also showed that all technical criteria required to proceed with serial integration have been fully met.

AI-ENABLED NEXT-GENERATION CAPABILITIES
Developed with a specialized engineering approach tailored for Bayraktar KIZILELMA, TOYGUN includes optimizations unique to the unmanned combat aircraft concept. The system offers wide-spectrum scanning capabilities contributing to 360° situational awareness. Its high-resolution IR imaging enables the detection of strategic targets and moving ground/sea elements from long distances. Moreover, AI-supported target tracking and automatic target classification algorithms enhance Bayraktar KIZILELMA’s autonomous mission performance.


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Lacy said:
two questions if i may.

1. these sensors(radar, eots, irst) can be considered precursors to KAAN's subsytems. if they are ready for the drones then i would expect the KAAN P1 to have these sensors from day one. does that make sense? have we seen any reports on P1's sensors?

2. is/will BAYKAR be able to develop in-house search and track software for ASELSAN supplied sensors?
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1- I'm too lazy to send you the sources, sorry for that, but yes, P1 will fly with pretty much all the sensors. At least that's the plan.
2- They are working together on these systems/sub-systems with Aselsan, similar to TAI/KAAN. They have embedded teams that provide technical assistance. I don't think they will pursue entirely in-house software because you need total control over the software, especially for sensor fusion among different sensors such as the radar, EOTS, RWR, DAS/MWS, etc., and currently, only Aselsan has the necessary sophisticated System Integration Labs (SIL) for that. It is also a similar case for the LBA Systems (Baykar/Leonardo joint venture); it's better to work together with the original equipment manufacturers on these issues.
 
This is turning out to be even better than what we expected! Just yesterday I was thinking we’d be seeing AAM tests any time now, and to wake up from a powernap to this? Best thing ever!

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