Medium Unmanned Surface Vehicle (MUSV), U.S. Navy

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Naval Air Systems Command’s program executive office for unmanned aviation and strike weapons is looking to onboard additional companies that can support intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) missions via contractor-owned, contractor-operated drones and sensors.
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The Navy identified three vessel concepts varying in capability. The most relevant to the service’s requirements is a solution for an unmanned ship that can support a payload of two 40-foot ISO containers and cruise at a sailing speed of 25 knots for up to 2,500 nautical miles in sea state four. The other two concepts examine different payloads, from one to four ISO containers without specifying range or speed. The Navy wants responses to the solicitation by Aug. 11
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these new concepts should be able to support numerous missions from their containerized payloads, including “Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance, and Targeting (ISR&T), Information Operations (IO) missions, and serve as an adjunct magazine.”
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The Navy stressed that the USVs should be a “non-exquisite vessel design.” The solicitation emphasized that the platform should have commonality with commercial standards to maintain, repair and build at multiple shipyards and support scaling production
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For values of Fast Attack.

Reddington777 said:
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The Navy identified three vessel concepts varying in capability. The most relevant to the service’s requirements is a solution for an unmanned ship that can support a payload of two 40-foot ISO containers and cruise at a sailing speed of 25 knots for up to 2,500 nautical miles in sea state four. The other two concepts examine different payloads, from one to four ISO containers without specifying range or speed. The Navy wants responses to the solicitation by Aug. 11
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these new concepts should be able to support numerous missions from their containerized payloads, including “Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance, and Targeting (ISR&T), Information Operations (IO) missions, and serve as an adjunct magazine.”
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The Navy stressed that the USVs should be a “non-exquisite vessel design.” The solicitation emphasized that the platform should have commonality with commercial standards to maintain, repair and build at multiple shipyards and support scaling production
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Reddington777 said:
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Perhaps the MUSV prototype being built for the EU's Euroguard project would be a good baseline... 45m long, ~250 tonnes approx... seems about right for the capability required.

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Baltic Workboats lays keel for EUROGUARD USV

Estonian shipbuilder Baltic Workboats laid the keel for a new modular semi-autonomous surface vessel at its shipyard in Nasva, Estonia, on 27 May.
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H_K said:
Perhaps the MUSV prototype being built for the EU's Euroguard project would be a good baseline... 45m long, ~250 tonnes approx... seems about right for the capability required.
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Ideally it doesn't have to have any exquisite stealth coatings but at least have some fairly stealthy shaping going on so that it'll make them a little harder to target while they are doing ISR or launching missiles.
 
Who merged the MUSV and MASC threads? They are linked but separate programs.
 
H_K said:
Perhaps the MUSV prototype being built for the EU's Euroguard project would be a good baseline... 45m long, ~250 tonnes approx... seems about right for the capability required.

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Baltic Workboats lays keel for EUROGUARD USV

Estonian shipbuilder Baltic Workboats laid the keel for a new modular semi-autonomous surface vessel at its shipyard in Nasva, Estonia, on 27 May.
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Nice, but cannot meet the minimum sustained cruising speed of 25kts. Should also add budget for this single vessel was EUR 95M (US $110M) - a bit pricy even for built in Estonia
 
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Isn't the MASC program just a refinement of the requirements for MASC?
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MASC (Modular Attack Surface Craft) is a whole new program to replace LUSV and MUSV. It also signals a shift in US Navy thinking around the actual maturity of maritime autonomy by also requiring that the designs ideally be based upon existing commercial designs that are optionally manning-capable, and Class society-approved.
 
EurekaBoat said:
MASC (Modular Attack Surface Craft) is a whole new program to replace LUSV and MUSV. It also signals a shift in US Navy thinking around the actual maturity of maritime autonomy by also requiring that the designs ideally be based upon existing commercial designs that are optionally manning-capable, and Class society-approved.
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And that is different than MUSV how?
 
Jimmo952 said:
And that is different than MUSV how?
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The MUSV (Medium Unmanned Surface Vessel) never had such requirements imposed, i.e., high minimum speeds, crew habitability, etc. Also there has been a shift in the US Navy/ US DoD in the use of Class standards to drive down costs and improve delivery of vessels from US Tier II and Tier III shipyards.
 
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So it's a refinement of the requirements.
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It's more than that, it's a shift back towards reality. Unmanned and autonomous vessels, in simple terms, are not yet mature enough to accomplish specific key missions. There are still missions where it makes sense to have a sailor in the loop.
This also tracks the same in commercial industries like Oil & Gas and Offshore Wind, where you have similar "like" operational parameters for OSVs (Offshore Support Vessels) that have not yet moved into unmanned operations.
The costs of failure are also very high, considering the mission payload on the vessel may cost 2 to 4 times the vessel's cost itself.
 
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There are still missions where it makes sense to have a sailor in the loop.
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Id hate to be the three dudes that have to man one of these things while adrift in the pacific, possibly behind enemy lines and utterly alone.

And when you arent alone, its because the enemy found you and is now sending drones after you.

Although realistically it'll be a bit like manning torpedo boats in WWII...
 
Reddington777 said:
Id hate to be the three dudes that have to man one of these things while adrift in the pacific, possibly behind enemy lines and utterly alone.

And when you arent alone, its because the enemy found you and is now sending drones after you.

Although realistically it'll be a bit like manning torpedo boats in WWII...
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Minimum manning for a ship is closer to 12.

Helmsman, engineer, and sensors operator times 3 watch sections makes 9. Officer in Charge, cook, and doc makes 12. Add at least 3 more if the USN requires a lookout in addition to sensor watches (they do when subs are surfaced, so...).

I'd also want a 4th watch section standing a fixed watch (say, 18-24), so that the regular 3 get a better break. This would add another 3+lookout(s).
Example: Section 1 starts off standing the 06-12 watch Monday, the next time they're on watch is midnight-6am Tuesday. They'd normally also stand the 18-24 watch Tuesday but section 4 is kicking them so their next watch isn't until 12-18 on Wednesday (30 hours off watch!). Thursday they're back on the 06-12 watch and pattern repeats.​
 
Reddington777 said:
Id hate to be the three dudes that have to man one of these things while adrift in the pacific, possibly behind enemy lines and utterly alone.

And when you arent alone, its because the enemy found you and is now sending drones after you.

Although realistically it'll be a bit like manning torpedo boats in WWII...
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The MASC is the modern-day analogy to the PT Boats of WWII. This is not a bad thing when you take into account that during WWII, the Japanese were never able to counter the USN's PT Boats effectively. The PT Boats earned the nickname "Devil Boats" from the Japanese. They wreaked havoc upon the Tokyo Express and other supply lines to forward-deployed Japanese forces and, by extension, upon the vast majority of Japanese outposts across the Pacific. Their origin was also a product of a time at the end of the 1930s when the US Navy and its supporting Tier I shipyards were not yet truly ready and capable of building the larger capital ships they knew they needed to win a war they knew was likely coming! General MacArthur and Admiral Nimitz advocated for them.

Does this sound familiar? It should... pretty much where the USA is today!
 
Scott Kenny said:
Minimum manning for a ship is closer to 12.

Helmsman, engineer, and sensors operator times 3 watch sections makes 9. Officer in Charge, cook, and doc makes 12. Add at least 3 more if the USN requires a lookout in addition to sensor watches (they do when subs are surfaced, so...).

I'd also want a 4th watch section standing a fixed watch (say, 18-24), so that the regular 3 get a better break. This would add another 3+lookout(s).
Example: Section 1 starts off standing the 06-12 watch Monday, the next time they're on watch is midnight-6am Tuesday. They'd normally also stand the 18-24 watch Tuesday but section 4 is kicking them so their next watch isn't until 12-18 on Wednesday (30 hours off watch!). Thursday they're back on the 06-12 watch and pattern repeats.​
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MASC currently calls out for a min crew of 8, however, if assuming full watch standing does indeed need to be able to host 12-16. That said, modern OSVs can run with smaller crews - the challenge will however come in minimum manning depending upon mission profile and mission systems requirements.
 
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US naval company partners with Singapore shipbuilder

Eureka Naval Craft, Houston, said Aug. 20 it plans to increase production of its Aircat Bengal MC warship design in Asia, after signing an memorandum of understanding with Singapore shipbuilder Strat
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Seems like an entrant for the MASC program with the following specs:

carry a 40-ton payload with a top speed of more than 50 knots, payload depending, and a range of 1,000 nautical miles
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Of note too, Aircat is partnering with a Singapore shipbuilding company.

With the original navy solicitation, the requested specs were:

The most relevant to the service’s requirements is a solution for an unmanned ship that can support a payload of two 40-foot ISO containers and cruise at a sailing speed of 25 knots for up to 2,500 nautical miles in sea state four.
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