States get go-ahead to build electric car charging stations

Charging a car in ten minutes is great but I don't think the U.S will get those
because of cost. Waiting an hour to charge is not as helpful as it should be.
And there is always the power grids. Can they handle the demand? The use
of all electric makes the grids juicy targets for hackers. Harden the grids first
then we will talk about all electric cars and charging stations.
 
Right now, EV owners are using home chargers. I'm sure there are very smart people who are aware of potential problems. There is a plan to lay a magnetic induction grid under one mile of street in Detroit. There is no need to harden anything, just maintain a high level of security, with manual backups in place. Penalties for so-called hacking attempts should be severe. At the least, being barred from internet access.

Cost? The U.S. government has no money of its own. The taxpayer is footing the bill. Rest assured, you will be charged a hefty price at an official 'charging station' as opposed to charging at home.
 
Now, I wonder if abandoned SONIC fast food locations might work as a lay-out...Elon might invest in SONIC as a dual use facility. You refuel as your car does...charged by the time you finish eating. Each post-stall has to have power go to it individually...and service stations have screens...maybe an e-lotto for a free charge...
 
How long it takes to charge is a big question, the longer it takes the charging stations
the more of them you will need and vice versa. As mentioned earlier, the citizens will
be paying for them to start with so I think it would be a crime to make a profit from them.
 
https://fortune.com/2025/08/12/elon-musk-tesla-diner-menu-hours-changes/
Less than three weeks after opening, the charging station/restaurant has drastically scaled back its menu, removing several offerings. As of Aug. 5, reports Eater, there were just five sandwiches left on the menu, the same number of vehicles the company sells.
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Initially promoted as a 24/7 establishment, the Tesla Diner now operates from 6:00 a.m. until midnight, unless you’re charging or ordering from you Tesla. And there have been reports that non-Tesla owners were not allowed to charge their vehicles at the diner site.
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Regards,
 
Half the US is virtually empty for all intents. It's unlikely charging stations will be built in locations where they see little or no use.

For example, Pie Town in New Mexico on US 60. In the total Middle Of Nowhere...

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publiusr said:
Now, I wonder if abandoned SONIC fast food locations might work as a lay-out...Elon might invest in SONIC as a dual use facility. You refuel as your car does...charged by the time you finish eating. Each post-stall has to have power go to it individually...and service stations have screens...maybe an e-lotto for a free charge...
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Not a bad idea, and it's how people actually use cars. Or close enough to how people actually use cars, anyways. Fuel/electrons into the car, fuel into driver and any passengers. Just add bathrooms so people can get used caffeine out and maybe showers in case of oops. Classic Truck Stop design.

The problem is that most of those places where it'd be good to install food/charger stations don't have the grid capacity to charge as many cars as the gas stations can fill up in half an hour to an hour. It takes what, 5 minutes to put gas in the car if there's no line? So each pump is "charging" ~6x or 12x the number of cars that a charger is. Your typical small 4-pump gas station would need a field of 24x charger spots!

When I drive to my Mom's (annual thing for her birthday), it's a ~300mi/500km trip. As long as there hasn't been a landslide. In places that are prone to them. If there has been a landslide, it's either a ~400mi trip or a ~600mi trip, depending on where the slide is. In the event of a ~400 mile trip, there's a convenient small town that is already used as a fuel and food stop by pretty much everyone headed up that particular road. There's even real estate for a charging area available. But no charging stations when last I looked.



T. A. Gardner said:
Half the US is virtually empty for all intents. It's unlikely charging stations will be built in locations where they see little or no use.
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Those are the places where it would require government-funded charging stations to be built in order for EVs to be practical outside the cities.

I personally prefer my governmental coercion to come in the form of rewarding people for doing what is desired, rather than penalizing what is not desired, so I'd want a tax break et sim for small-town gas stations to install a couple of EV charging stations, at least up to the number of fuel pumps they have. This may include breaks and incentives for installing and fueling a booster generator if the local electrical grid isn't really able to handle the chargers.
 

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