Covid-19 Vaccine - Where, How & Costs

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I've similarly toned down my opinions about antivaxxers. All that does is raise the heat and noise for no real light.
 
At the risk of being banned. Being banned of this forum because of Jouir (false) Messiah Bolsonaro would be a complete waste...
 
Then this forum may as well become HPCA if bans become political in nature like this. I don't think the mods and admins want that eventuality anyway.
 
I think after 56 pages of posts, this topic is getting annoying.

dannydale said:
Andrew Wakefield should be in prison for life for the intentional lies he told.
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Personally, I sympathise with the sentiment even if I disagree on sentencing specifics. Not sure why we need to say it on this forum though.
 
overscan (PaulMM) said:
I think after 56 pages of posts, this topic is getting annoying.

dannydale said:
Andrew Wakefield should be in prison for life for the intentional lies he told.
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Personally, I sympathise with the sentiment even if I disagree on sentencing specifics. Not sure why we need to say it on this forum though.
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I think it's nice to have a place that aggregates solid news about our progress against Covid. If I wished to learn about progress around the world by myself, I'd be at least doubling the time I spend on the net.

As for Andrew Wakefield, he's a key reason behind the resurgence of anti-vax sentiment from the late 90s on, I think we should expect some references to him in a Bar topic about vaccines.
 
I see a difference between "Andrew Wakefield is responsible for vaccine hesitancy and should be brought to account for it" and "Andrew Wakefield should be in prison for life for the intentional lies he told". One is more appropriate language than the other.
 
overscan (PaulMM) said:
I see a difference between "Andrew Wakefield is responsible for vaccine hesitancy and should be brought to account for it" and "Andrew Wakefield should be in prison for life for the intentional lies he told". One is more appropriate language than the other.
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Fair point. However, I do think it fits in the Bar. I've made a longer post about the Bar in the Social/Political Commentary topic started by Dannydale.
 
This news story has to my mind a somewhat misleading headline in respect of what the article actually says.
STOCKHOLM, Oct 1 (Reuters) - Scientists behind COVID-19 vaccines could be in the running to win the Nobel Prize for Medicine even though the pandemic is far from over.

Some scientists say it is just a matter of time: If the work that went into developing the vaccines is not recognised when this year's prize is announced on Monday, it will win the award in years to come.

More than 4.7 million people have died from COVID-19 since the first cases of the novel coronavirus were registered in 2019, and many countries still live under severe restrictions intended to curb its spread.

But COVID-19 vaccines have helped some wealthy states return almost to normality while others are yet to receive vaccine doses in large quantities.


Among those seen by other scientists as potential winners of the Nobel Prize for Medicine are Hungarian-born Katalin Kariko and American Drew Weissman for their work on what are known as Messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) vaccines.
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https://www.reuters.com/business/he...vid-19-vaccine-it-may-be-too-soon-2021-10-01/
 
overscan (PaulMM) said:
I think after 56 pages of posts, this topic is getting annoying.

dannydale said:
Andrew Wakefield should be in prison for life for the intentional lies he told.
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Personally, I sympathise with the sentiment even if I disagree on sentencing specifics. Not sure why we need to say it on this forum though.
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This thread must probably die, for the sake of the forum equilibrium - and its members mental health...
 
Archibald said:
overscan (PaulMM) said:
I think after 56 pages of posts, this topic is getting annoying.

dannydale said:
Andrew Wakefield should be in prison for life for the intentional lies he told.
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Personally, I sympathise with the sentiment even if I disagree on sentencing specifics. Not sure why we need to say it on this forum though.
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This thread must probably die, for the sake of the forum equilibrium - and its members mental health...
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What an utterly bizarre statement.
 
I see the US has now hit 700,000 deaths from Covid closing in on the estimated 750,000 deaths from the American Civil War.
 
Labs in China’s Wuhan city dramatically increased the procurement of polymerase chain reaction (PCR) equipment in the second half of 2019, indicating that Covid-19 was “spreading virulently” months before the government reported the first case to the WHO in December 2019, according to a new report.

Data compiled by Internet 2.0, an Australian cyber security company, found that the Chinese government spent nearly twice the amount on PCR tests — used to detect certain viruses — in 2019, compared to the previous year. While China procured the PCR equipment for 36.7m yuan (£4.1mn) in 2018, it spent 67.7m yuan (£7.6m) in 2019.
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Other medical experts also approached the conclusion drawn from the research with caution.

Dr Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security said that he did not know the specific reason behind the increase in purchases in Hubei province at that time. But he added that the increase in purchases of PCR equipment in general is not surprising as it had become “the methodology of choice for pathogen detection”, even before the pandemic.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/china/covid-virus-wuhan-summer-2019-b1932574.html
 
Hail Pfitzer - for their efficient vaccine (ok, that was a pretty silly joke).
 
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