I hope it will include pre Pak Fa stuff recently revealed by russians (but only in expensive russian language books).
 

At a slim 224 pages it's going to be the shortest Yefim Gordon title published in a while. There's just not a lot of data about this aircraft that has been officially released. We still don't have one good picture of the cockpit of this aircraft. Not to mention it's going to be padded out with information about the two cancelled projects that preceded it. The Su-57 only just now being delivered to frontline units. If he had waited until the aircraft was in service for a year or two he might have more material and pictures to include.
 
My hope is that lack of material could benefit, in exchange, comprehensive information on origins and development, with many optional configurations.

The kind of information with deserves a couple of pages on most books on classic aircraft.
 
I remember when the Tu-22 first appeared, the first code name suggested was based on a comment made about the aircraft's appearance: "Beauty". But that was deemed to be too complimentary, so it ultimately became "Blinder". And don't forget that one of the first great Soviet aircraft of the NATO era was codenamed "Fagot"!
 
I remember when the Tu-22 first appeared, the first code name suggested was based on a comment made about the aircraft's appearance: "Beauty". But that was deemed to be too complimentary, so it ultimately became "Blinder". And don't forget that one of the first great Soviet aircraft of the NATO era was codenamed "Fagot"!
IIRC, when the Tu-28 was thought to be a bomber, it was code-named "Blinder" and the Tu-22 was code-named "Beauty", when the Tu-28 was determined to be an interceptor fighter and given a "F-name", the Tu-22 got the "Blinder" code name because some general didn't want to give it a "nice" code name.
 
Awful title.
NATO likes to use an F word.. Appropriate given its likely deployments in Syria, Crimea etc

What an odd code name. I also didn't realize NATO was still giving out code names. They already know the aircraft will be called the SU-57 so why bother ? Well at least they didn't go for something derogatory like the code names they gave to the Mig-15 and the AN-22.
 
Awful title.
NATO likes to use an F word.. Appropriate given its likely deployments in Syria, Crimea etc

What an odd code name. I also didn't realize NATO was still giving out code names. They already know the aircraft will be called the SU-57 so why bother ? Well at least they didn't go for something derogatory like the code names they gave to the Mig-15 and the AN-22.
NATO code names are easier to say over the radio, hence why they still need them.

I hope this book is still coming out. Maybe it will be saved from his usual copypasta due to the fact the Su-57 is so new, so he cant ctr c+v about the georgian conflict and whatnot.
 
So what happens to the Yefim Gordon book? Is it cancelled? Or just delayed? :confused:
 
So what happens to the Yefim Gordon book? Is it cancelled? Or just delayed? :confused:
alberchicos source says november 2021, i am just trying to figure out of it is still worth buying, as in will some users get the cover to pdf format here? Also is it a repeat of already known information? Such as there being a book of the ka-52 katran talking about hermes and radar performance when information is already known about it like me viewing promweekly.ru translating KRET pdf files for its radar. Not to to mention further upgrades on the su-57s weapons, avionics and engines from 2022-2024.
 
Awful title.
NATO likes to use an F word.. Appropriate given its likely deployments in Syria, Crimea etc
There’s a reason. NATO uses F names for fighters and B names for bombers. You know what the aircraft is by the name.
 
New Cover at Amazon..co.uk



Don't be surprised if it gets delayed until 2022. Yefim's book on the Chinese air force is finally going to be available on May 15, but it was originally scheduled to be published last November.

 
New Cover at Amazon..co.uk



Don't be surprised if it gets delayed until 2022. Yefim's book on the Chinese air force is finally going to be available on May 15, but it was originally scheduled to be published last November.


I hope that it is not delayed that long alberchico, I had Yefim Gordon’s Su-57 book down as a possible Christmas present for this year.
 
The book can no longer be found on the crecy.co.uk website, so I suspect we are in for a very long wait, no matter what amazon states.
 
I remember when the Tu-22 first appeared, the first code name suggested was based on a comment made about the aircraft's appearance: "Beauty". But that was deemed to be too complimentary, so it ultimately became "Blinder". And don't forget that one of the first great Soviet aircraft of the NATO era was codenamed "Fagot"!
IIRC, when the Tu-28 was thought to be a bomber, it was code-named "Blinder" and the Tu-22 was code-named "Beauty", when the Tu-28 was determined to be an interceptor fighter and given a "F-name", the Tu-22 got the "Blinder" code name because some general didn't want to give it a "nice" code name.
Actually, the Tu-22 supersonic bomber first received the name 'Bullshot' by NATO's NASCC. Since that name obviously sounded a bit too much like a slang alternative to 'nonsense', it was designated 'Beauty' after it's fly-past at the 1961 May Day celebration. This name then was considered too complimentary and was finally changed to 'Blinder' in 1962.
 
I remember when the Tu-22 first appeared, the first code name suggested was based on a comment made about the aircraft's appearance: "Beauty". But that was deemed to be too complimentary, so it ultimately became "Blinder". And don't forget that one of the first great Soviet aircraft of the NATO era was codenamed "Fagot"!
IIRC, when the Tu-28 was thought to be a bomber, it was code-named "Blinder" and the Tu-22 was code-named "Beauty", when the Tu-28 was determined to be an interceptor fighter and given a "F-name", the Tu-22 got the "Blinder" code name because some general didn't want to give it a "nice" code name.
Actually, the Tu-22 supersonic bomber first received the name 'Bullshot' by NATO's NASCC. Since that name obviously sounded a bit too much like a slang alternative to 'nonsense', it was designated 'Beauty' after it's fly-past at the 1961 May Day celebration. This name then was considered too complimentary and was finally changed to 'Blinder' in 1962.
 
Awful title.
NATO likes to use an F word.. Appropriate given its likely deployments in Syria, Crimea etc

What an odd code name. I also didn't realize NATO was still giving out code names. They already know the aircraft will be called the SU-57 so why bother ? Well at least they didn't go for something derogatory like the code names they gave to the Mig-15 and the AN-22.
Bundle of sticks and rooster?
 
Has anyone bought this magazine format book on the SU-57 that was recently published ? Is it any good ? So far I have not seen it on sale here in the U.S.

 
So what happens to the Yefim Gordon book? Is it cancelled? Or just delayed? :confused:
Probably the Global limit on his BS was reached. Butowski gives you real info without Gordon’s March of the Proletarian speeches.
”The state had no resources, the pilots had no training, but a product superior to anything in the West was produced and the untrained pilots using patriotic vigor shot down all their enemies.”

Hard pass on Gordon.
 
Has anyone bought this magazine format book on the SU-57 that was recently published ? Is it any good ? So far I have not seen it on sale here in the U.S.

I think it's pretty good. Piotrs text is top notch, nice photos, the layout could have been a bit better but that' Key's responsibility.
 
I'd like to know if a good chapter on design development with project drawings is included...
 
400 pages seems hard to believe because we're talking about an aircraft which is already in its testing/development program. MiG-29 book on this "Famous Russian Aircraft series" is 511 pages. If this Su-57 volume includes full coverage on MiG 1.44 and Su-47 plus generous contents on unbuilt projects related to the program, I think a 400 pages figure could be reached. Approx 500 photos and Illustrations demand many pages. I'd love to see a great book...who knows.
 
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