Wrecks in Beijing

[TAKHISS]

China Aviation Museum in Xiaotanshan,a wreckage of the D-21B

 

[Deino]

Very interesting ... but also from the same site ! Does anyone knows what type of aircraft this is ?? ???

Someone said a Nanchang J-12, but that can't be.

Deino ???

 

[GTX]

Very interesting ... but also from the same site ! Does anyone knows what type of aircraft this is ?? ???

Someone said a Nanchang J-12, but that can't be.

Deino ???

It almost has a P-39 look to it - almost has though someone has used parts to create a jet version?

Regards,

Greg

 

[Deino]

Just received the info via a member at the German FF that it was a mock-up for a Chinese film and it was built to represent an US agressor ...

Deino

 

[jivac]

Boys can You identificated jet wreck?

 

[Arjen]

Ambrosini Sagittario 1 ? Where was the picture taken?

 

[jivac]

Myslím, že to není ambrossini, vrak má nosní podvozek a středové křídlo bez terčů. Dále, příď může vidět palebné kanály pro možná čtyři kulomety. Obrázek nevím, kde byl pořízen, ale podle vraku il-10 si myslím, že je to východní blok

 

[Richard N]

Rough translation of the above Czech:

"I think it's not Ambrossini. The wreck has a nose chassis and a center wing without targets. Additionally, the bow can see firing channels for perhaps four machine guns. The picture I do not know where it was taken, but according to the wreck Il-10 I think it is the Eastern block."

 

[zebedee]

This is at the China Air Museum at Datangshan, China. A more detailed image showed up on the Key Forum some years ago and the consensus then was that is was a mockup used for training

Zeb

 

[TsrJoe]

Bell Airacobra/Kingcobra ? just a thought looking at the nose wheel leg

 

[sienar]

This is at the China Air Museum at Datangshan, China. A more detailed image showed up on the Key Forum some years ago and the consensus then was that is was a mockup used for training

Zeb

Yeah, this seems to match up with the photo

 

[Apophenia]

Bell Airacobra/Kingcobra ? just a thought looking at the nose wheel leg

I was thinking that the undercarriage (and detachable outer wing panels) more resembled the Nanchang CJ-6 ... which led me to this:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/China-Air-Force/Nanchang-CJ-6/1247266

Caption: This is apparently a CJ-6 modified with a new nose and canopy, to make it look like a F-84 Thunderjet for a movie - note the faded US markings. On display in the China Aviation Museum.

 

[Pioneer]

I'm taking a guess, but going by the rust of the fuselage (steel armour, as opposed to aluminium), as well as the landing gear, I think the two closest might be Ilyushin Il-10's??

Regards
Pioneer

 

[archipeppe]

It appears to have U.S. markings, maybe a sort of F-84 mock-up used for training?

 

[Apophenia]

It appears to have U.S. markings, maybe a sort of F-84 mock-up used for training?

Simply a Chinese movie prop standing in as an 'F-84' as near as I can figure.

Added: Seems this topic has been covered before: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/d-21b＃527-in-beijing.8431/

 

[Grzesio]

I think the two closest might be Ilyushin Il-10's?

Yes, they are Il-10.

 

[nuuumannn]

My own take on the mysterious aircraft and the intriguing wrecks at the China Aviation Museum.

DSC_6019

DSC_6025

Xiaotingshan Derelict Aircraft Park

At the China Aviation Museum, September 2017.

www.flickr.com

 

[archipeppe]

It is clearly a Nanchang CJ-6 trainer, heavily modified.
It was removed the second place as also the original canopy, probably replaced with a Yak 9 fighter's one.
The radial engine was also removed and replaced with a sort of jet intake mock-up (but without any exhaust in the tail or under the wing).

In my opinion the mystery is solved.

 

[archipeppe]

A rough profile...

 

[nuuumannn]

In my opinion the mystery is solved.

Yup, was solved a long time ago. It was designed to represent a US jet fighter as mentioned further up the thread.

 

[archipeppe]

In my opinion the mystery is solved.

Yup, was solved a long time ago. It was designed to represent a US jet fighter as mentioned further up the thread.

Sooorry, I watched the latest photos and I thought that the mystery was still in the air....

 

[Foo Fighter]

Anything on the first four pictures up there?f-16 a-like profile to the fuselage/wing attachment points.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Anything on the first four pictures up there?f-16 a-like profile to the fuselage/wing attachment points.

Looks like D-21 wreckage to me.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Foo Fighter]

Thanks, Mark. appreciated.

 

[F.L.]

 

[Foo Fighter]

I heard of a fake made for a film but not an actual copy flown.

 

[Justo Miranda]

I heard of a fake made for a film but not an actual copy flown.

The hunters-1958

 

[Arjen]

Did you know the Chinese copy of the F-84 Thunderjet of which there is still a specimen in the museum of Datangshan ?

Noted two and a bit years ago here:

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/wrecks-in-beijing.8431/#post-374694

 

[dan_inbox]

It was just a joke to see if anyone would fall for it !

Paul and moderators, do the site policies approve posting deliberately false information in this section?
Or even in the bar outside of April 1st.

 

[Foo Fighter]

I heard of a fake made for a film but not an actual copy flown.

The hunters-1958

Thanks mate.

 

[Arjen]

The Hunters is a 1958 US film with F-84Fs standing in for MiG-15s.
No Chinese F-84-copies involved, if any of those ever existed, at all, anyway.

 

[The K2]

I heard of a fake made for a film but not an actual copy flown.

The hunters-1958

Stock footage of the fighters in flight were used in four episodes of the TV series Airwolf to represent Soviet Migs.