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Deino

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Very interesting ... but also from the same site ! Does anyone knows what type of aircraft this is ?? ???

Someone said a Nanchang J-12, but that can't be.

Deino ???
 

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Deino said:
Very interesting ... but also from the same site ! Does anyone knows what type of aircraft this is ?? ???

Someone said a Nanchang J-12, but that can't be.

Deino ???
It almost has a P-39 look to it - almost has though someone has used parts to create a jet version?

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Just received the info via a member at the German FF that it was a mock-up for a Chinese film and it was built to represent an US agressor ... ;)

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Ambrosini Sagittario 1 ? Where was the picture taken?
 
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Myslím, že to není ambrossini, vrak má nosní podvozek a středové křídlo bez terčů. Dále, příď může vidět palebné kanály pro možná čtyři kulomety. Obrázek nevím, kde byl pořízen, ale podle vraku il-10 si myslím, že je to východní blok
 

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Rough translation of the above Czech:

"I think it's not Ambrossini. The wreck has a nose chassis and a center wing without targets. Additionally, the bow can see firing channels for perhaps four machine guns. The picture I do not know where it was taken, but according to the wreck Il-10 I think it is the Eastern block."
 

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This is at the China Air Museum at Datangshan, China. A more detailed image showed up on the Key Forum some years ago and the consensus then was that is was a mockup used for training

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Bell Airacobra/Kingcobra ? just a thought looking at the nose wheel leg
 

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This is at the China Air Museum at Datangshan, China. A more detailed image showed up on the Key Forum some years ago and the consensus then was that is was a mockup used for training

Zeb
Yeah, this seems to match up with the photo
china mystery airframe.png
 

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Bell Airacobra/Kingcobra ? just a thought looking at the nose wheel leg
I was thinking that the undercarriage (and detachable outer wing panels) more resembled the Nanchang CJ-6 ... which led me to this:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/China-Air-Force/Nanchang-CJ-6/1247266

Caption: This is apparently a CJ-6 modified with a new nose and canopy, to make it look like a F-84 Thunderjet for a movie - note the faded US markings. On display in the China Aviation Museum.
 

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I'm taking a guess, but going by the rust of the fuselage (steel armour, as opposed to aluminium), as well as the landing gear, I think the two closest might be Ilyushin Il-10's??

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It appears to have U.S. markings, maybe a sort of F-84 mock-up used for training?
 

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It is clearly a Nanchang CJ-6 trainer, heavily modified.
It was removed the second place as also the original canopy, probably replaced with a Yak 9 fighter's one.
The radial engine was also removed and replaced with a sort of jet intake mock-up (but without any exhaust in the tail or under the wing).

In my opinion the mystery is solved.
 
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