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Offline CAO 700

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Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« on: November 25, 2009, 04:16:54 pm »
Hi, there are some pictures of my Arsenal VG.20. This is a scratch-buiding model.















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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 05:55:10 pm »
WOW great job.

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 10:37:37 pm »
Very nicely done effort! What scale is it and was it totally scratch built or did you have to do some kitbashing along the way?

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2009, 12:14:41 pm »
Very nicely done effort! What scale is it and was it totally scratch built or did you have to do some kitbashing along the way?

I believe the scale is listed in the subject header - 1/72.

I too am curious about any kit-bashing in this project.

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2009, 12:31:00 pm »
Thanks John, Chicken nd the Artist!

Scale is 1/72.

To build this model I've got used parts from a Loire 130 Replica (green parts), an Ilyushin Il-2 Shturmovik Mikro72 (white parts)and an Arsenal VG.33 Azur (grey parts). That is yellow is Milliput (a lot of Milliput! ;D)

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2009, 01:42:13 pm »
VG.20 = VB.10...?

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2009, 01:53:28 pm »
Hi Justo, not exactly. The VG.20 was a Vernisse-Galtier project and the VB.10 was a Vernisse-Badie project. But the VG.20 can be considered as the grand'uncle of the VB.10. The VG.20 never was built, but various VB.10 were built at the end of the war.

Wood had to be used for the VG.20 and the VB.10 was a metallic plane.

Very interesting drawings! Thanks!

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2009, 02:10:21 pm »
A very interesting subject for scratch-building and an excellent execution. I wasn't familiar with the VG.20...i take it was a twin engined aircraft with a second buried engine behind the cockpit?

I googled "arsenal VG.20" and came up empty handed...do you have any good links to suggest or further documentation on it?

Thanks!
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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2009, 02:36:54 pm »
Hi AeroFranz, the drawing I used to build this what-if is from Jean-Marie Cuny, maybe from le "Fanatique de l'Aviation". I asked to a friend of mine the number of this "Fana".

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2009, 04:25:56 pm »
More pictures of the building:























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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2009, 08:44:48 pm »
Thanks for posting these in progress shots. I like being able to get a look at other people's building techniques.

A very nice build.
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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2009, 08:48:14 pm »
AWESOME!
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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2009, 09:55:40 am »
Thank you! Others pictures later, I've got problems with my computer  ;D

And excuse me because I don't write english as well as I would

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2009, 01:48:53 pm »
Problems resolved! Others pictures:























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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2009, 03:34:21 am »
Very cool kitbash/scratchbuilt! Looks great and highly original.

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2009, 05:39:40 am »
Thank you very much Skyraider. Your drawings are so nice! I love the Manta Fighter! Does it exist a kit of this US project?

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2009, 05:55:30 am »
I still need to properly finish or redo the Manta, as it's one of my earlier models and not very good. It's a very interesting design and has had a lot of attention.
No kit is available, but if I remember correctly Terry Harner in the USA has developed a combat RC model kit out of it, after winning several championships with his original built inspired by my 3D image. Other people who've built the Manta since for RC flying all agree that it flies exceptionally well, most likely due to the wing design.

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2009, 12:16:44 pm »
Hi Skyraider, thank you very much for your very complete answer, I hope somebody will realize a good kit of this very interesting project!

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2009, 02:15:56 pm »
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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2009, 12:48:37 am »
 :o :o :o

WOW!

I've just discovered this thread and this is a marvelous model! The subject is original, the work detailed and perfectly executed... Congratulations! I think I'll be suggesting this for the Whif contest...  Are you on the What If Modelers forum as well?

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2009, 06:07:10 am »
Hi Stargazer, I discovered the What If Modeller forum yesterday!

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2009, 02:42:39 pm »
Thank you Stargazer, I'm very pleased that you like my job  ;)

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2009, 02:51:28 pm »
The map is a nice detail! :)

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2009, 09:56:23 pm »
The in-progress shots really show the amount of work put into this fine model. Thank you for sharing them.

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2009, 02:20:55 pm »
Thank you for all these kind words. I think it's normal to share...

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2009, 02:57:40 pm »
HIGH QUALITY work indeed! :o

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2009, 03:42:27 pm »
Thanks!





















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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2009, 10:15:16 pm »
I saw some of this on What If, but I didn't see the assembly.  Those seats, that instrument panel, and all that detail, and you did it in 1/72.  I do not have words to adequately express my wonder.  WOW!

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2009, 02:09:59 am »
 :o :o :o :o

That´s THE big work.

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2009, 12:02:26 pm »
Thank you very much!

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Et voilà, c'est fini! :D

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2009, 12:38:23 pm »
The page is too long now for all the pictures... I can no longer see the bottom of it. Can you resize some of the pics?

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2009, 01:18:48 pm »
From " Les chasseurs Arsenal VG30 á VG70" by Jean Cuny et Raymond Danel,Le Fanatique de L' aviation
circa 1992

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2009, 03:06:58 pm »
It's the drawing I used to build my kit!

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2009, 04:28:04 pm »
Oui mon ami...very hard to find!  :P

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2009, 02:55:12 pm »
Yes, but the aircraft looks great, isn't it? "Ca valait la peine!"

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Re: Arsenal VG.20 (1/72 scratchbuilt model by CAO 700)
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2017, 08:41:35 pm »
Hi! Twin engines?

https://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/arsenal_de_l_aeronautique.pdf
Yes, they were all (VB-10, VG-20 and VG-10) foreseen as engines in tandem planes (as the Kawasaki Ki-64).

The flying testbed, destroyed in Lyon-Bron on 30/04/1944 by allied bombers, was a modified one-engine Latécoère 299, the Latécoère 299A (its two engines were closer together and before the pilot). It flew three times before to be destroyed. 4 photos and 2 drawings on this Russian links : http://www.airwar.ru/enc/spyww2/late299.html
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