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Offline Jemiba

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2012, 11:23:43 am »
Greta site, thank you !
All the early types are shown there, too.
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2012, 01:22:20 pm »
I believe the D-24 was a aircraft project comparable with aircraft such as the BF-109 and Spitfire and Curtiss P-40
It was planned with an daimlerBenz or Merlin engine,its configuration was a low wing fighter with retractable undercarriage.
 enclosed cockpit was also planned!

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2012, 04:44:26 am »
Peter de Jong's recently published 'Fokker D.21', pages 81-82, mentions two Fokker designs, 150 (Bristol Hercules) and 151 (DB600 / RR Merlin). Both were low-wing, retractable gear fighters. According to De Jong, if just one of these designs had been built, it would have been designated D.22. In the event, neither was built. In the unlikely event of sufficient funds being around for both to be built, one might have been the D.22, the other the D.24 - D.23 already being assigned to a push-pull prototype.


The D.24 designation was used much later for a joint Fokker-Republic project, the D-24 Alliance. In my opinion, the D.24 designation probably was not considered for any pre-war design.
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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2012, 06:32:03 am »
Arjen please do you have a bigger picture?

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2012, 06:59:07 am »
Certainly. Reply #3, 6th picture. http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15830.msg153890.html#msg153890

PM me for a bigger scan.

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2012, 07:53:18 am »
Wow!!! How I missed that thread? Maybe I've got more to the aerospace section. Thanks a lot!!!


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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2012, 08:40:22 am »
Wow!!! How I missed that thread? Maybe I've got more to the aerospace section. Thanks a lot!!!

Well, "Aerospace" means basically that the aircraft was procured and serviced, as opposed to projects/prototypes/research aircraft. That doesn't mean it's not old or little-known!

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2013, 08:22:52 am »
Bonjour


Here , you will find the story : ( please , look at " development")


www.fly.to/do24


From that site,which was mentioned by my dear Richard,the Fokker B.V and B.VA
projects.

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2013, 08:56:53 am »
Hi all
From an old " le Fana de l'aviation"

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2013, 01:56:46 pm »
Great my dear Toura,


and here is the Fokker G.2 and T-6 or T-VI from that site;
http://www.nederlandseluchtvaart.nl/forums/f13-fokker/vreemde-fokker-g-1-a-8837/


also a drawing to G.1 variant,but I don't know this one.

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2013, 02:26:56 pm »
Hesham: A photo of a mockup identical to your third drawing appears in Aircraft in Profile, Vol 6, no 134, pg. 192, 'The Fokker G.1'. But author Bart van der Klaauw identifies this as "A mock-up of the proposed G-2 under construction in the Fokker plant". The thing is, van der Klaauw himself identifies the G-2 as a DB600-powered aircraft and this mockup is clearly fitted with Mercury engines.  ::)

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2013, 03:27:35 pm »
Thank you my dear Apophenia.

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2013, 01:26:44 pm »
There is confusion about the Fokker G.1 design with glazed nose.

Hugo Hooftman in Vol II of the Nederlandse Luchtvaart Enclyclopedie -Fokker G.1- describes
this aircraft as a G.1 bomber. He claimed to be the first to published a drawing of it.
(early seventies of the past century)

In the new book about the Fokker G.1 (Lanasta ) the four authors had an other opinion.
Translated from the book.
...It was a planned reconnaissance variant of the G.1 based on the  'ontwerp 179'.
   A  early production G.1 was fitted with a glazed nose mock up but not flown.
   Interest in the reconnaissance G.1 vanished in 1939...
« Last Edit: June 04, 2013, 12:25:30 pm by lark »

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2013, 10:10:33 am »

...It was a planned reconnaissance variant of the G.1 based on the  'ontwerp 179'.
   A  early production G.1 was fitted with a glazed nose mock up but not flown.
   Interest in the reconnaissance G.1 vanished in 1939...


My dear Lark,


that means the Ontwerp 179 had a different drawing ?.

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Re: Dutch Fokker bomber and fighter projects from the late 30ties
« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2013, 07:49:02 am »
Indeed, projected in 3 variants based on the G.1 design.