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Offline Justo Miranda

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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2009, 08:34:13 am »
Length 2700 mm.
Diameter 1440 mm.
From "Reichdreams " N.19 and
"Die Deutschen Raketenflugzeuge" by Joachim Dressel & Manfred Griehl , Motorbuch Verlag 1989

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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2009, 02:55:32 pm »
the problem is this the "V"  Term
the "Vergeltungswaffe" or "V" came direct from Joseph Goebbels on 24 June 1944
German military they use term "Versuchsmuster" or "V" with number for Prototypes

know are
V1 named by Goebbels on speech in on 24 June 1944 = Fieseler Fi 103
V2 named by Goebbels on speech after September 1944 = Aggregat 4 (A4)

uncertain are
V3 = Fernkanone aka Hochdruckpumpe, Tausendfüßler, fleißiges Lieschen or Englandkanone
Other claim
V3 = Amerikarakete aka Aggregat 9/10
Vergeltungswaffe 3 was NOT mention by Goebbels.

in the time of Internet came up with a lot V Weapons claims
like V-7 or so called BMW V-weapon and Nazi UFOs  >:(
no of them are Real WW2 weapons

I agree with Michael Van... the problem is with the "V" designation; which i understand to denote "Versuchs [number]" or "Prototype [Number]" in English; hence, V1 is the "First" Prototype, V2, the second and so on...
As Michael quite correctly noted above, Goebbels hijacked the "V" [Versuchs] number and "rebranded" it to imply that the Reich "had Something ["Vergeltungswaffe"] up it's sleeve..." so to speak.

To quote from:

Ian Hogg (1999)
German Secret Weapons of the Second World War
Greenhill Books, UK
[ISBN 1-85367-325-0]
(p. 51)

"The expression "V-4" appears here and there, but it rarely appears to apply to the same thing twice. It has been applied to the A9/A10 rocket combination, to the German nuclear bomb, to the piloted V-1 and to a postulated German radioactive bomb, among other things."

Given that the RLM insisted that each successive prototype (of a Project design) of an aircraft be assigned a "V-number", it is hardly surprising that such confusions still arise today.

Hope this may be of use



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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 09:25:05 pm »
I think, we are beginning to mix things !
The letter "V" used to designate "Versuchsmuster" (prototypes) and was ALWAYS used
in conjunction with the types designation only, e.g. "Ju 88 V1", "Me 262 V1".
Goebbels creatures were the "Vergeltungswaffen" (retaliations weapons) V1 and V2,
but those were used as soem kind of completly new designations and never as suffix to
the actual type designations, which would have meant "A-4 V2" or "Fi 103 V1" and only
denoted just one example.
So, those designations could be seen as "political designations" at best, with no actual
relation to type or its develoment. And there weren not any more, or is there soembody,
who remembers Goebbels speech in the "Führerbunker" on the 9th of May 1945 ?!   
And actually, we should discuss aviation technology and history and not silly statements
of criminals, who called themselves "politicians", shouldn't we ?    ;)   

It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2009, 03:13:03 am »
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And there weren not any more, or is there soembody,
who remembers Goebbels speech in the "Führerbunker" on the 9th of May 1945 ?!   
Wasn't the guy dead for more than a week then? ;)

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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2009, 03:54:09 am »
"Wasn't the guy dead for more than a week then?"

Probably not, if we believe in those guys, that are telling us about
V3s, V4s, V5s  and so on .....      ;)

And Hitler himself was still alive then, too, as recently, I read of someone, who is
reasearching about his escape from Berlin in a Fieseler Storch, flown by Hanna Reitsch,
before he went to Argentina !
And there he probably ordered the V8 to V99, as the US was now in easy reach ..   ;D

Tons of sensational stuff are waiting for us !!
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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2011, 02:08:10 pm »

Does anyone knows something about this Ta 283(?) bomber project? :



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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2011, 02:45:23 pm »
This is Ta Bomber and I have done these pictures for David Myhra ten years ago. Maybe more in his books. It is known Ta Fighter, too.

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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2011, 03:03:47 pm »
Nice to meet you :)


Ta 283 ramjet/rocket fighter and the other version which is usually mentioned as "Super Lorin" are well known . But this two-seat bomber version is new to me.


Did you make the model based on plans/drawings?
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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2011, 08:11:43 am »
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Re: German WWII 1945 V4 Pabst Ramjet
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2011, 08:43:34 am »
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Secret Projects forum is a place where a copy of 67-year old technical drawing could make my day  ;D


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