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Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« on: April 30, 2018, 02:44:56 pm »
The fourth in my Luftwaffe series.

Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
by Dan Sharp

Price: 6.99 in the UK. It's gone to press and should be out towards the back end of May.
If you've seen the 'unknown' chapters of my previous Luftwaffe titles, this is essentially a whole publication devoted to that.
Featuring contributions from forum members (alphabetical order): CiTrus90, Geist, Hamzalippischh, Skyraider3D and Zizi6785.

Contents:

Arado ‘Dreieck’
Arado S-Flugzeug
Arado E 208
Arado Ar 233
Blohm & Voss BV 138 projects, P 81, P 84, P 85, P 86, P 94, P 110, P 111, P 112, P 144, P 145 and BV 238 Seefernaufklrer, Dornier P 93/Do 214 and P 173/Do 216, Heinkel He 120
Dornier P 209, P 215, P 231, P 232, P 238, P 252, P 254, P 256 and triple jet fighter
Dornier P 144, P 149, P 150, P 151, P 153, P 155, P 222, P 223, Do 317 and Do 417
DVL jet fighter
Focke-Wulf Grosstransporter
Gotha P-60.007
Gotha oddities
Guided weapons
Heinkel P 1076
Henschel P 75, P 87, P 90, P 108, P 122, P 130, P 135, P 136 and Hs 132
Junkers EF 116
Lippisch P 15 Diana
Messerschmitt Me 109 Zw, Me 309 Zw and Me 609
Messerschmitt Me 163 with canards
Messerschmitt P 1079
Messerschmitt Schnellstflugzeug
Zippermayr’s Pfeil Flugzeug
Zeppelin (FGZ) pulsejet fighter
And projects we only know about from text descriptions
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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2018, 02:36:05 am »
 ;D
I think this will be one of the best books on the luft46 subject!
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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2018, 03:37:29 am »
Hi! Great News. I will of course buy it. Do you have a release date?

Ah, now I see: release probably end of may... Being so excited I read too fast ;D

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2018, 04:10:08 am »
Hi! Great News. I will of course buy it. Do you have a release date?

Ah, now I see: release probably end of may... Being so excited I read too fast ;D

The on-sale date for retail is supposed to be May 21 but I think it's available to pre-order in any case.

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2018, 12:58:53 pm »
Looking forward to it!

Messerschmitt Me 109 Zw, Me 309 Zw and Me 609

Was the 609 a different project from the 309 Zw or just a case of designations being juggled around?

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2018, 02:29:15 pm »
Looking forward to it!

Messerschmitt Me 109 Zw, Me 309 Zw and Me 609

Was the 609 a different project from the 309 Zw or just a case of designations being juggled around?

The Me 309 Zw is two Me 309 fuselages joined together. The Me 609 is the Me 262. I found a number of references to documents about the Me 609 and on retrieving them was surprised to discover that they all related to the Me 262 (see attached examples) and had nothing to do with the twin-fuselage Me 309. I asked Dan Johnson about it and he pointed me to Willy Messerschmitt - Pioneer of Aviation Design by Erbert, Kaiser and Peters which, on p296, describes the Me 609 as "cover designation for test-ready Me 262s". The evidence certainly backs up that description.


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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2018, 10:46:40 am »
Definitely looking forward to this one.  It promises to be as enjoyable, and useful, a read as your previous works.

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2018, 11:38:36 am »
I`ve just pre-ordered it :D!Dan, what`s that design in the top left corner?

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2018, 01:52:06 pm »
I`ve just pre-ordered it :D!Dan, what`s that design in the top left corner?

DVL jet fighter. It's a shame it doesn't have a 'proper' designation but the document it's shown in doesn't give it one.

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2018, 10:12:14 pm »
Will you add the messerschmitt me P.1099 in your next book?

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2018, 12:27:12 am »
Will you add the messerschmitt me P.1099 in your next book?

Probably a bit early to be discussing the next one. But possibly.

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2018, 02:50:32 am »
Preordered! Im especially curious on the chapter about the Zippermayr "Pfeil". Not much is mentioned about it in other sources (as far as I know.)

And I also have a preference in the now ongoing discussion on a (possible) follow up: Lippisch, Lippisch and Lippisch!

Greetings,
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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2018, 03:25:54 am »
DVL jet fighter :o! According to Kay, DVL was working on a turbojet of it`s own. Was this design meant for it?

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Re: Luftwaffe: Secret Designs of the Third Reich
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2018, 04:33:16 am »
Preordered! Im especially curious on the chapter about the Zippermayr "Pfeil". Not much is mentioned about it in other sources (as far as I know.)

And I also have a preference in the now ongoing discussion on a (possible) follow up: Lippisch, Lippisch and Lippisch!

Greetings,
Athpilot

There's a bit of Lippisch in this one - the Me 163 with canards was a design patented by Messerschmitt AG on Lippisch's behalf several months before Willy Messerschmitt had his own V-tail idea patented. Lippisch also patented a version with forward-swept wings (!). I've gathered a fair bit more Lippisch material since Luftwaffe: Secret Wings but I don't know whether I want to go back to tailless and flying wings again so soon.