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Imagination of the future from the past
« on: September 16, 2007, 07:25:16 am »
Hi,

In flightglobal many imagination for future from the past,
such as those projects.

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1955/1955%20-%200134.html

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2007, 07:42:53 am »
Hi,

the future of the freighter aircraft from 1958.

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1958/1958%20-%200315.html
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2007, 08:04:46 am »
Hi,

the Princeton University imagine for flying saucer
for US Army.
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1959/1959%20-%202670.html

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2007, 11:12:58 am »
Hi,

there is some supersonic aircraft designed from 1957.

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1957/1957%20-%200173.html

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2007, 12:46:18 pm »
Interesting concepts. On the picture "Supersonic2.jpg" is Bristol M-wing or something very similar.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2008, 11:15:45 am »
Hi,

Mr. Stout's concept for supersonic blended-hull configuration.
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1951/1951%20-%202161.html

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2008, 06:38:06 am »
Hi,

In flightglobal many imagination for future from the past,
such as those projects.

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1955/1955%20-%200134.html

Cool, they really look like "Thunderbirds stuff"!!!

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2008, 12:58:47 pm »
And from the point of view of Walter Dornberger, long range passenger transport
is at least since 8 years accomplished by rocket powered aircraft, using reusable
winged launch vehicles :     ;D

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2008, 03:24:29 pm »
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2008, 02:05:24 pm »
from the 'Eagle' annual, 1962,

the RR griffith VTOL SST, already mentioned elsewhere, in formation with the Convair NX-2.



an image of the Bristol Siddeley 'flying pig'


and an impression of a Northrop flying submarine. i think this last one is pure speculation, based on a written description, as the illustration bears a striking resemblance to the saro P.121 hydroski fighter project.

for the record, the illustrator, and also article author, was one Gordon Davies.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 12:16:08 pm »
"..as the illustration bears a striking resemblance to the saro P.121 hydroski fighter project."

Sorry, but it IS the P.121, as the caption says ?!
But many thanks for these illustrations, as the retractable skis
at the wingtip pods are clearly recognisable.
Haven't seen this before, I always thought of simple wingtip floats ! 
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 02:51:23 pm »
Quote
Sorry, but it IS the P.121, as the caption says ?!

OOOOOOOOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!! :-X

Forgot to post the picture from the 'Eagle' article, here it is...

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 04:23:39 am »
Hi,

here is two artist pictures for a models from Society of Model Aeronautical
Engineers and the Society of Model and Experimental Engineers,for two
suggested projects,the Bobbed bomber and Submerged engine fitted
with an aircraft.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1946/1946%20-%201671.html

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2008, 12:13:50 pm »

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2008, 10:05:28 am »
The third one looks like it could've been stolen from the storyboards from some upcoming "twenty minutes into the future" sci-fi movie.
It's a crappy self-made pic of a Lockheed Unmanned Combat Armed Rotorcraft (UCAR), BTW
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2008, 10:15:57 am »
a Air launch ICBM ...
how old is this Idea !?
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2008, 04:18:02 am »
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2008, 09:22:40 pm »
a two pusher aircraft.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1947/1947%20-%201425.html
The twin-boomer you present reminds the Matra R75 having 2 engines in the booms driving a central propeller. With engines almost on the centerline, it is more easy to turn as weights are more central, but there is less room for passengers/loads etc. Interesting for a fighter anyway, thanks.
PS. Above, for the very big airliner, have you notices there were passengers in the fin? Amazing!

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2008, 09:57:36 am »
Hi,

a suggested design for a vertically-launched rocker interceptor with
missile armament stowed internally amidship.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1951/1951%20-%200959.html
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2008, 08:08:04 am »
Hi,

a military flying boat succeed to the Shorts Sunderland.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1951/1951%20-%200934.html

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2008, 08:11:00 pm »
 ??? ;D Incredible! A modern airship with neither hydrogen nor helium but hot air... So great an idea, why hasn't it be built and tried? I will direct to this a British friend, expert in airship, to get his opinion, I will tell you.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2008, 11:51:49 pm »
Hi,

a jet-ship.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1951/1951%20-%202187.html

Great ;D How can you not love that ? It reminded me of "Indiana Jones and the Sky Pirates" (by Martin Caidin - ISBN 978-0-553-56192-0 - it features a "jet-powered zeppelin", although Caidin's version uses helium for lift, and the jets for propulsion only).

And WHOA....I just noticed the specs in the drawing: 500 000 cu. ft. of air at 1200 degrees centigrade ? Sealed envelope or not, that thing must have the mother of all infrared signatures.

Still, it makes the old "geek-o-meter" ping into the red zone B)

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2008, 10:08:36 am »
??? ;D Incredible! A modern airship with neither hydrogen nor helium but hot air... So great an idea, why hasn't it be built and tried? I will direct to this a British friend, expert in airship, to get his opinion, I will tell you.
My friend said: "a very similar project from late 1950s was made by a Canadian engineer. 'Thermodyne' the Canadian called it."

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2009, 03:06:59 am »
Hi,

a suggested design for a vertically-launched rocker interceptor with
missile armament stowed internally amidship.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1951/1951%20-%200959.html

The missile armament stowed internally amidship wouldn’t be to unlike that of an airborne torpedo tube arrangement of sorts and principle!

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2009, 10:04:43 am »
Hi,

Goodyear Aircraft Corporation developed an ambitious proposal for a reusable,
manned space vehicle.
http://www.metafilter.com/53712/Around-the-world-on-a-Dream-Machine

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2009, 04:22:17 am »
I've been directed to a nice Modern Mechanix 1929 issue at
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/28/capt-rickenbackers-airplane-of-the-future/
with 2 great twin-boomers:

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2009, 01:53:02 am »
Hi all. From the cover of POPULAR MECHANICS, Sept 1982

(sorry about the direct hyperlink to the image, but I seem to be unable to attach anything - in any browser..)

the original link is here:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=f9kDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_v2_summary_r&cad=0

I couldn't find this in any other forum topics. Anyone have any more information?

Edit: correctly attached image
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2009, 02:35:18 pm »
And from the point of view of Walter Dornberger, long range passenger transport
is at least since 8 years accomplished by rocket powered aircraft, using reusable
winged launch vehicles :     ;D

(from InterAvia 11/1953)

Is this the same?

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2009, 11:15:58 am »
This section has been facinating to look at.

Did anyone go to Disneyworld in the 1980s?  At EPCOT they had a pavilion called Horizons about the future of life.  The first section was about "Looking back at the Future", about what we thought life would be like in the 21st Century from the perspective of ther 1940s and 1950s.  Very interesting and even humorous.

Sadly, and even ironically, it has has been replaced so we cannot see it anymore.
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2009, 11:49:39 am »
If you're into that sort of faux passé kind of thing, you ought to check out New York's 1939 International World's Fair. I've got plenty of stuff on this but no scanner unfortunately. It must have been a dream to grow up as a kid and visit that sort of place. Everything seemed possible then.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2009, 07:08:01 am »
Aerotropolis
Skyscraper Airport for City of Tomorrow

"What the metropolitan skyport of tomorrow may look like, as conceived by Nicholas DeSantis, New York commercial artist, is shown in the illustration below. His remarkable proposal, embodied in a model that he has completed after five years' study of the project, calls for a 200-story building capped by an airplane field eight city blocks long and three blocks wide. A lower level of his "aerotropolis", as he has named it, offers a port for lighter-than-air craft. Hangars for planes and airships occupy the top fifty floors.

Commuters living 100 miles or more from the city would fly to work in their private planes. Landing on the roof, they would descend by elevators and moving platforms to an indoor parking space for 250,000 private cars and taxis, whence they would be whisked without delay to their destination. Similar facilities would serve passengers arriving by transport planes and airship lines. By centralizing air and land terminals in one building, the "aerotropolis" would save time now lost in journeying to and from airports far from the heart of a city.

Other parts of the building provide space for offices and light industrial plants, theaters, two enormous arenas for football and baseball games, restaurants and cafes."


Drawing by B. G. Seielstad

Source: an old issue of Popular Mechanics or such

NOTE: this was a two-page illustration which was missing a strip in the middle because of the spine. I have reconstructed the missing part digitally for your enjoyment. Hope you like it! I know I do... At present time it's my desktop background!

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2009, 09:51:47 am »
the only build Skyscraper Airport

is the Empire State Building

Art Deco spire was originally designed to be a mooring mast and depot for airship
but test with airships show it almost impossible to dock, due to updrafts winds caused by the building itself.

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the movie "Sky Captain and World of Tomorrow" show how it had work
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2010, 10:40:46 am »
Hi,

the Armstrong Whitworth flying wing aircraft ad.

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1948/1948%20-%200414.html
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2010, 01:54:29 pm »
The airships are always pictured too small.
Even in Sky Captain. In reality the Hindenburg was about as long (300 m) as the Empire State Building is tall (380 m). We're talking Titanic size. The Graf Zeppelin wasn't much smaller.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/abramsv/R84_unH54DI/AAAAAAAAKsA/yDsicGc-evA/s640/sdfadsfafgfvcx.jpg
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2010, 03:04:52 pm »
Yes, but not all airships are or were the size of the Hindenburg! Most Goodyear blimps are much smaller. Also don't lose track of the size of the imaginary building in the picture, which completely dwarves the Empire State Building! See the airfields and parks at the top, read how it is supposed to host sports arenas and so forth... Truly an amazing project.

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« Reply #51 on: March 17, 2010, 09:48:35 am »
Source: Out Of Time - Designs For The Twentieth-Century Future
by Norman Brosterman, Harry N. Abrams, Inc., 2000

This book was published in conjunction with a Smithsonian Institution Traveling Exhibition. Notice in the American Weekly illustration that the bi-planes are launching from the tower.

The caption with the aircraft carrier image is quoted below
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« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2010, 07:31:10 pm »
the only build Skyscraper Airport

is the Empire State Building


What about the Pan Am Building? Sure, I'm talking about heliports but if you're counting an airship port as an airport then heliports should also be counted. The McDonnell Douglas Headquarters Building (now part of McBoeing) has (or had) a heliport on the roof and a hospital not far from my place has a heliport on its roof.

For a while, it seemed that roof top heliports would become a common thing but that changed after the crash on the roof of the Pan Am Building back in (I believe) the '80s.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2010, 01:33:54 am »
For an unqualified newbie (so please be gentle  :)) I find it interesting that "Supersonic 1.jpg" has pretty much the same mission as Concorde (London-NY, 100 passengers, mach 1.9) but a similar configuration to Reaction Engine's hypersonic Skylon / Lapcat designs.

I guess just only so many supersonic/hypersonic design concepts?

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2010, 12:09:11 pm »
Source: Out Of Time - Designs For The Twentieth-Century Future
by Norman Brosterman, Harry N. Abrams, Inc., 2000

This book was published in conjunction with a Smithsonian Institution Traveling Exhibition. Notice in the American Weekly illustration that the bi-planes are launching from the tower.

The caption with the aircraft carrier image is quoted below
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An actual idea from the Navy to protect aircraft carriers by washing them with sea water during nuclear attack.

Mike

The lower picture looks like something out of Gerry Anderson...
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« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2010, 09:25:49 pm »
Thanks Stevoe for this goldmine... ;)
Among many marvels there, my favorite may be the Römer Ozean-Riesenflugzeug
at http://www.retro-futurismus.de/roemer_poster1.htm
(art “of the future” 1941, rather close to the Republic Super Clipper, while different with 3 propellers only)

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2010, 09:07:10 pm »
Another roof-top airport idea - from back in 1967.
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« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2010, 02:35:54 pm »
interesting thread aka how our grandfather imagined the future ! :)
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« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2010, 09:06:43 pm »
These are from Future Life, December 1980.

From a 1976 exhibit designed by Boeing for the Smithsonian. "Air Travel in the Tricentennial 2076"

The captions for pictures 1 and 2 are with picture 1 and the captions for pictures 3 and 4 are with picture 2.
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2010, 01:33:32 pm »
Future Life! Oh damn but that takes me back! I actually had every single issue of the magazine... Until a windstorm destroyed our storage shed  :'(

The first picture "commuter" aircraft reminds me of an LTA (Lighter-Than-Air) design for a lenticular, solar powered design but the name is just NOT coming to me. I seem to recall a "test" model was built in Mexico but crashed on a public street...

Uhm anyone?

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2010, 07:25:50 am »
RE: Image posted by Hesham on page 2 of this thread:
Hi,

a single seat light tailless pusher aircraft.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1946/1946%20-%201624.html?search=dornier%20do32z%20helicopter
Hi Hesham;
here is a similar image. Yes, I realize there are numerous significant differences. ( NOT tailess and not pusher, as to basic differences)Yet, the image you posted reminded me, so much, of this photo that I "recognized" as so familiar...
This image of the Firth Sattelite, is from a negative I obtained with the Chris Ashworth photo and negative collection. (30,00 prints and 120,00 negatives!..fortunately , now, with 46 page "general" index that took me six weeks, full time, to compile, as there was no Ashworth Index to be found, although he must have had one..)
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2010, 04:35:06 am »
Hi,

here is a tilt-wing delta aircraft,I was never seen like this
concept before.

http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=e9QDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA124&dq=variable+swept+wing+popular&lr=&cd=6#v=onepage&q&f=true


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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2010, 08:47:05 am »
regarding the skyscraper-top 'flight deck', from the
'Air Progress' cover at the top of this page, am I
correct in thinking that it would rotate to face into
the wind, rather than having a fixed orientation?


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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2010, 11:06:39 pm »
It looks that way to me. I haven't found the article yet - and I may not have it as I believe this was one of a handful of poor condition magazines I picked up for the art at a swap-meet several years back.
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #68 on: June 17, 2010, 07:50:53 am »
Hesham, I reckon this topic is normally dedicated to the imaginings of artists and independent designers, not the projects from established aerospace companies (these fit in the "Post-war projects" section). First four pics and the last one do not belong here. I'm creating a new topic based on these which I have reworked.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #69 on: June 17, 2010, 08:04:00 am »
Here is the cover corresponding to the above article:



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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2010, 09:40:07 am »
That "Tilting-Delta Wing" gives me a lot of ideas for what if F-8 Crusader designs. ;)  Although, it makes so much sense due to the delta's inherent high alpha capability.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #73 on: July 01, 2010, 08:28:28 pm »
and this is dated "future - june 1944", thanks! ;D

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #75 on: July 18, 2010, 11:17:02 am »
Hi,

the future of the freighter aircraft from 1958.

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1958/1958%20-%200315.html

May be that projet was from SARO.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #76 on: July 18, 2010, 12:23:00 pm »
The article is written by the Chief Project Engineer of Short Bros. and Harland, Ltd. Frank Robertson so it may be one of his rather than Saro?

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #77 on: July 18, 2010, 08:05:51 pm »
Thanks for this new post of picture, still enriching the collection of recent twin-hull projects... ;D (this seems so repeated here and there that it must be a good idea, maybe built then standard in some future? 2050?) ;D
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« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2010, 10:37:20 am »
Thanks for this new post of picture, still enriching the collection of recent twin-hull projects... ;D (this seems so repeated here and there that it must be a good idea, maybe built then standard in some future? 2050?) ;D
That would be nice, then they can run on fusion!  ;)
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #80 on: October 06, 2010, 06:52:08 am »
Thanks for all the fascinating posts - the thing I find most fascinating is the lack of this sort of thing now. Have we become cynical about our ability to predict the future?

All I can think of that would be equivalent now are tailless or UCAV designs that really only look to 2025-ish. Where's our modern-day take on what flying machines will look like in 2099?

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« Reply #81 on: October 06, 2010, 07:08:31 am »
I want #3.  Screw the Moller air car.
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #82 on: October 06, 2010, 07:33:10 am »
Where's our modern-day take on what flying machines will look like in 2099?



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« Reply #84 on: October 08, 2010, 02:44:20 am »
Where's our modern-day take on what flying machines will look like in 2099?
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« Reply #85 on: October 08, 2010, 01:41:51 pm »
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R.A. Heinlein described such situation in one of his latest novel

Do you remember the tittle?

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #86 on: October 10, 2010, 04:58:43 am »
This image is great. So great many reproduced it. However, I tried to trace down its source (reference), and was not able to locate. When exactly was it published, in which magazine, etc. Anybody help?

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #88 on: October 17, 2010, 12:37:26 pm »
That 'Jet Plane' concept looks a lot like the Gloster E.28/39.......
and from the caption :- "Has but one moving part".......HAWWWWWWWWWW............ :D


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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #89 on: October 19, 2010, 05:41:14 am »
Thank you my dear Robunos,

and here is a twin boom rocket plane of 1928,they think it
will fly to the height 100 to 150 miles.

http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=wd4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA739&dq=flying+truck&hl=ar&ei=94W9TNOhM4eBOt_a4GQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=68&ved=0CLQCEOgBMEM#v=onepage&q&f=true

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #90 on: October 19, 2010, 09:40:18 am »
Wonderful twin-fuselage aircraft, thank you! So modern in 1928... and it could have been.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #91 on: October 19, 2010, 10:47:04 am »
Max Valier concept for a rocketpowered trans Atlantic aircraft..

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #92 on: October 29, 2010, 04:21:20 am »
Hi,

here is a real budget-buster from Leifpeng's flickr site,
it is a VTOL aircraft,I don't if we discussed that before
or not.

http://atomic-annhilation.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post_26.html

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« Reply #93 on: January 15, 2011, 05:00:16 am »
Hi,

a very strange imagination for the future.

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« Reply #94 on: January 15, 2011, 05:47:14 am »
Very interesting, thanks Hesham. ;D
I have a question: how do you read the picture #64? Is this a 2-rotor asymmetric compound, with a short starboard wing? or else a 3-rotor symmetric compound, with one of the starboard blades hiding the starboard wing? ???

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« Reply #95 on: January 15, 2011, 06:21:01 am »
The upper left shows an orange Douglas X-3 Stiletto. -SP
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« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2011, 09:40:19 am »
how do you read the picture #64? Is this a 2-rotor asymmetric compound, with a short starboard wing? or else a 3-rotor symmetric compound, with one of the starboard blades hiding the starboard wing? ???
Thanks to Hesham who thinks it is asymmetric and sent a link, I went to
http://img217.imageshack.us/f/histoireaviation7es9.jpg/
and got a bigger view. Still difficult to decide: asymmetric or not?

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« Reply #99 on: January 15, 2011, 11:10:07 am »
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Still difficult to decide: asymmetric or not?

Symmetrical. Look closely, you can see the end of one of the starboard blades between the the edge of the picture and the starboard engine.


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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #100 on: January 15, 2011, 12:30:55 pm »
Yes, here are the 2 hypothesis, illustrated:

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #101 on: January 18, 2011, 04:55:29 am »
Hi,

Mr. Heinz Gartmann flying wing airship.

http://www.retro-futurismus.de/radtke_raketen.htm


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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #104 on: January 24, 2011, 03:36:19 am »
"Television will carry the mails"? That will never happen...  ;)
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« Reply #105 on: January 25, 2011, 09:43:21 pm »
"Television will carry the mails"? That will never happen...  ;)

Why not ? Isn't it a good idea to have the television presenter reading your love letters to you ?  ;D
Or payment requests, medical reports and rejected applications for employment ?
Don't know if it would be that much worse, than your private data sold by internet providers or
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« Reply #106 on: January 26, 2011, 12:59:53 am »
"Television will carry the mails"? That will never happen...  ;)

Why not ? Isn't it a good idea to have the television presenter reading your love letters to you ?  ;D
Or payment requests, medical reports and rejected applications for employment ?
Don't know if it would be that much worse, than your private data sold by internet providers or
carriers of social networks.  :-\

As I understand it, Hammer Birchgrove was hinting at the fact that it HAD actually happened in the form of the internet and the e-mail... check out the smiley!

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« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2011, 05:26:02 am »
"Television will carry the mails"? That will never happen...  ;)

Why not ? Isn't it a good idea to have the television presenter reading your love letters to you ?  ;D
Or payment requests, medical reports and rejected applications for employment ?
Don't know if it would be that much worse, than your private data sold by internet providers or
carriers of social networks.  :-\

As I understand it, Hammer Birchgrove was hinting at the fact that it HAD actually happened in the form of the internet and the e-mail... check out the smiley!

Indeed. While I'd like to see (easy-to-use) jetpacks as much as the next guy, it's fun when a futuristic prediction for once comes true, even if they may seem rather mundane.  :)
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #109 on: February 18, 2011, 06:54:52 pm »
Why not ? Isn't it a good idea to have the television presenter reading your love letters to you ?  ;D

...Although I'd get a total kick out of Unca Walter Cronkite reading me e-mails from my ex's, the concept of someone like that schmuck Dan Rather or that commie bastard Peter Jennings doing so tends to churn the stomach a bit.

That being said, I *hope* you caught the original poster's attempt at humor, right?

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« Reply #110 on: February 19, 2011, 07:13:40 am »

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #112 on: March 03, 2011, 03:42:09 pm »

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« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2011, 08:03:20 pm »
The YP-80E with dual cockpits, in the background is very interesting too. Real industrial project?

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« Reply #114 on: March 03, 2011, 08:26:11 pm »
The YP-80E with dual cockpits, in the background is very interesting too. Real industrial project?

Real.

Behold the EF-80:


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« Reply #115 on: March 04, 2011, 01:48:21 am »
Amazing! You learn something new every day!!

Did you notice that the rear cockpit is smaller in the second picture while in the first pic it's a standard P-80 cockpit?

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« Reply #116 on: March 04, 2011, 09:23:28 am »
Thanks a lot Orion & Star... ;D

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« Reply #117 on: March 04, 2011, 03:45:17 pm »
Whilst trawling the "net", I came across this!!

German (Nazi that is) planning gone MAD!?!?

To "quote" from the web-page...

Transportation Projects

At the same time on both sides of the Atlantic were planned aircraft that could carry 400 to 450 km / h Reisegeschwindkeit 50-100 passengers over several thousand kilometers.
Visionary and gigantic, a single leaf-air ship of Adam Antes, a sculptor from Darmstadt.

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« Reply #118 on: March 05, 2011, 12:02:10 am »
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« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2011, 12:15:54 am »
So far I know , " German " don't means " nazi" ,but it's another story ...

The Adam Antes' design was not only " imagination " :it was patended in 1932 ,and models flew ... some (very bad) photos in flight were published in " Flugsport " 1934 .

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/11/21/flying-wing-is-air-liner-of-future/

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Antes

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« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2011, 08:26:57 am »
No intended offence in using the term Nazi, just that the image was from a website about Nazi architecture!!!!!
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« Reply #121 on: March 10, 2011, 03:46:44 am »
Don't know, if it's the same site, but I found one, which has collected a lot of those
weird big thingsfrom pre-1945 Germany, including the "Antes Flugschiff". Looking into
his biography, I couldn't find signs, that he was a typical "Nazi artist", doing exactly the
kind of things, that were especially liked by the nomenclatural. Of course, as he was working
in Germany all through the years of the national socialist regime, he certainly wasn't an
avowing opponent.
His design in some way he reminds me on those from Luigi Colani, maybe here, too, it was
more art, than technical design and in the part of the patent we have seen here, nothing
is said about its advantages, or if it ever really was intended to lead to such a large aircraft.
At least, an interesting design and I'm still thinking what it should be called. A ring wing ?
Or is it a twin boom aircraft ? Tophe, what do you think ?   ;)
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« Reply #122 on: March 10, 2011, 08:04:11 am »
It is one of the limit cases you could classify in or out. Like the Willoughby Delta.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willoughby_Delta_8

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« Reply #123 on: March 10, 2011, 03:32:46 pm »
Hi,

for the Willoughby Delta 9 three-engined project,please see;

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3594.msg28574.html#msg28574

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« Reply #124 on: April 14, 2011, 01:17:23 pm »
Dear Hesham, here is an advertisement in French extolling the virtues of Bendix Computing-Devices for future VSTOL aircraft navigation needs......

The advertisement comes from the 15th September 1963 issue of Aviation Magazine......

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« Reply #125 on: April 14, 2011, 04:23:27 pm »
Dear Hesham, here is an advertisement in French extolling the virtues of Bendix Computing-Devices for future VSTOL aircraft navigation needs......

The advertisement comes from the 15th September 1963 issue of Aviation Magazine......

Terry (Caravellarella)

Very interesting my dear Caravellarella,thank you.

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« Reply #126 on: September 17, 2011, 09:34:23 am »
Hi,

a jet-ship.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1951/1951%20-%202187.html

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« Reply #127 on: September 17, 2011, 05:03:33 pm »
The air defence units wouldn't have to scramble to shoot it down, they could just put it on their to-do list.

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« Reply #128 on: November 07, 2011, 09:03:39 pm »
A couple space program futures from the past. This seems to be the place for them.

Thanks Mark for bringing these to my attention.
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« Reply #129 on: January 09, 2012, 02:01:54 am »
The third one looks like it could've been stolen from the storyboards from some upcoming "twenty minutes into the future" sci-fi movie.

I agree, though I've always preferred the term "the day after tomorrow" myself

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« Reply #130 on: January 09, 2012, 03:45:57 am »
Hi,

a jet-ship.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1951/1951%20-%202187.html

An unmanned nuclear armed jet lifted/propelled rigid airship. Now I've seen everything.

500 000 cu ft of air at 1200 degrees centigrade? Somehow, the term "infrared signature" seems woefully inadequate.
 
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« Reply #131 on: February 16, 2012, 10:21:54 pm »
Popular Mechanics, September 1949

I'm kinda partial to this one!
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« Reply #132 on: February 20, 2012, 11:32:00 pm »
The image isn't as clear as I remember it though.

There are much better quality versions of that image out there.
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« Reply #133 on: February 21, 2012, 02:29:31 pm »
I'd been looking for this picture for a while now. I remember it in a book I had as a kid, called SHUTTLE 2. I still remember building it in Legos, too. But here you go. The image isn't as clear as I remember it though. If anyone can find a better version, by all means


http://history.nasa.gov/SP-432/ch4.htm

And here's a better version of the article from the Milwaukee Journal, 10 Feb 1947
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19470210&id=VB0aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=BSUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3021,4282102


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« Reply #134 on: February 21, 2012, 02:41:17 pm »
I'd been looking for this picture for a while now. I remember it in a book I had as a kid, called SHUTTLE 2. I still remember building it in Legos, too. But here you go. The image isn't as clear as I remember it though. If anyone can find a better version, by all means


http://history.nasa.gov/SP-432/ch4.htm

And here's a better version of the article from the Milwaukee Journal, 10 Feb 1947
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19470210&id=VB0aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=BSUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3021,4282102


I sent this before my dear XP67_Moonbat;


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1928.msg59278.html#msg59278


And the source is here;


http://history.nasa.gov/SP-432/ch4.htm

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« Reply #138 on: April 15, 2012, 02:51:45 pm »
I found that last one while trying to find a higher quality version moon shuttle from the 1947 article. Haven't given up yet.
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« Reply #140 on: July 01, 2012, 09:24:11 am »
http://unconventionalspace.blogspot.com/2009_01_01_archive.html

Likely another variant of the Werner Von Braun design seen below:

As the link sez:
 
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« Reply #141 on: October 02, 2012, 08:36:59 am »
Here is an US army ground attack aircraft design,from Modern Mechanix magazine.

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« Reply #142 on: November 07, 2012, 04:06:16 pm »
Awesome thread!


I think we now know the answer to the last Modern Mechanix cover question: our today's sky snipers are UAVs.



Here's my old Triebflügeljäger artwork from 10(!!!) years ago, which of course fits nicely with the topic of crazy futuristic airplane designs from the past:



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« Reply #144 on: February 18, 2013, 08:27:07 am »
Via GOODNET:

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« Reply #145 on: February 24, 2013, 04:53:40 am »
Hi,


with Japanese GEN H-4 article,there is two artist drawings for personal helicopter,
it was imagination for the future.


http://alternathistory.org.ua/samyi-malenkii-vertolet-v-mire-gen-h-4-yaponiya

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« Reply #146 on: February 24, 2013, 11:17:11 am »
Second picture (which I already posted elsewhere) represents a Solar design.

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« Reply #147 on: February 24, 2013, 12:10:22 pm »
It probably were the colours of the second picture, that reminded me of the 1979
movie "Apocalypse Now". Tried to imagine the famous scene shown below (from
http://gamerlimit.com/2009/05/joseph-conrad-apocalypse-now-and-homefront-meet-thq/)
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« Reply #148 on: February 24, 2013, 12:24:37 pm »
Anybody have an idea what this is?




This look like Waverider concept
maybe a Spacecraft or Hypersonic Test vehicle 

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« Reply #149 on: March 01, 2013, 08:33:56 pm »
We've been finding some interesting things among the latest acquisitions at the museum. These are from the Mechanix Illustrated 1951 Aviation Yearbook.

Sent in two batches of five.
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« Reply #150 on: March 01, 2013, 09:01:10 pm »
Second batch.
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« Reply #151 on: March 02, 2013, 04:23:34 am »
Absolutely awesome through and through. Frank Tinsley was a genius illustrator, if nothing else! Thank you so much for sharing, The Artist.

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« Reply #152 on: March 02, 2013, 04:36:35 am »
Really a beautiful concepts,thank you Artist.

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« Reply #153 on: March 02, 2013, 10:31:19 am »
Funny today to see the expectations for the future: Everybody to have a helicopter in the garage,
instead of a car ..
And funny how the ancestry of that submarine can even be found in the number on the conning tower.
The N° 14 could be read as "I 4", as there's not enough room for "I 400"  !  ;)
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« Reply #155 on: March 13, 2013, 08:46:57 am »
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The Height of Flight: London, 2026 Future Vision

JF Ptak Science Books   Post 1867
 
Montague B. Black (b. 1884), an artist and illustrator, pulled the curtain back from the future back there in 1926 to what he thought might be the following scene of London in 2026:

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« Reply #158 on: March 20, 2013, 02:20:45 am »
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/gasless-dirigible-for-safe-air-travel/

Interesting. This technology has been routinely used by dirigibles for decades but there doesn't seem to have ever been any practical application to proper aircraft. Why so? I'd like to know.

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« Reply #159 on: March 20, 2013, 06:24:34 am »
Thank you Stargazer.

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« Reply #160 on: March 23, 2013, 10:40:54 am »
From the old Paleofuture blog (current site is here), a 1967 Philco-Ford concept:

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« Reply #161 on: March 23, 2013, 10:48:00 am »
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« Reply #162 on: March 24, 2013, 12:34:47 pm »
From the old Paleofuture website, a 1960 concept for a Disaster Response Vehicle:

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« Reply #163 on: March 25, 2013, 07:08:18 am »
Future cybercrime as seen from 1981.
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« Reply #164 on: March 25, 2013, 11:15:11 am »

Original Caption: "Car of the future" sketch from Ford


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“Today’s developments, no matter how advanced,” [Kohr] said then, “will be antiquated by 1965 — though that is just a little too far in the future for any accurate prediction.
 
“The passenger car engine probably will be lighter, smaller and more compact. It should have greater combustion efficiency, higher compression ratios and improved ignition. If some of today’s knotty metallurgical problems are solved, a gas turbine power plant, weighing roughly half as much as the reciprocating engine, may be used.
 
“Tomorrow’s automobile will be a highly dependable and durable vehicle, requiring fewer repairs and less frequent servicing. Strong, light metals, such as magnesium and titanium, may perform increasingly important roles in engine and body construction.
 
“Visibility will be enhanced, probably by smaller structural supports and greater use of glass — although car glass may be tough enough to support the roof itself, and impregnated to filter out the burning rays of the sun. Stylists will attempt to lower the future automobile, imparting a longer, wider and faster look. Sliding car doors are a possibility. Electronic controls will be popular.”


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« Reply #165 on: March 27, 2013, 08:09:14 pm »
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« Reply #166 on: March 28, 2013, 12:25:23 am »
"...Stylists will attempt to lower the future automobile,..."
 
The change of stature of the average driver obviously still wasn't a theme. Happy times back then !
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« Reply #167 on: March 30, 2013, 05:37:29 am »
Hi,


here is some ideas for future,a Germany two-case cargo dirigible,a Russian FSW
aircraft and early Ekranoplanes.


http://scienseillustrations.mypage.ru/?page=1




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« Reply #168 on: March 30, 2013, 05:41:06 am »
Hi,


also from the same site,a ultra huge airplanes and a Russian hypersonic
aircraft.




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« Reply #169 on: March 30, 2013, 09:26:16 am »
Bonjour


The dirigible "DELPHIN" was designed by Ulrich Queck and W.Schmidt in the D.D.R (GDR) in the  sixties .


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« Reply #170 on: March 30, 2013, 09:28:43 am »
And from Flieger Revue in the DDR   (GDR) :

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« Reply #171 on: March 30, 2013, 09:32:34 am »
Very nice drawing my dear Richard,


and for Flightglobal,a future fighter of 1952;


http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1952/1952%20-%202332.html

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Every year cyclones wreak havoc. People are killed, ships sink, bridges get torn apart as if made of matches and countless people become homeless.
But aircraft can track the storms early. By scattering silver iodide or dry ice, the violence of the storms are broken. The whirlpool of air gets distorted. Even the direction of the wind can be changed significantly by this method.


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Under water and in the air — as you like — the turbine aircraft will be controlled thanks to its adequate design. The concept is feasible since air is "liquid".


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« Reply #174 on: April 05, 2013, 08:53:00 am »
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« Reply #175 on: April 05, 2013, 11:11:33 am »
Stéphane, many thanks for pointing me to that magazine ! Really interesting reading, a lot
of in the style of "Atomic Cafe" .... "duck and cover !" in the event of a nuclear attack, but
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« Reply #176 on: April 11, 2013, 03:08:12 pm »
Hi,


here is the Armstrong Whitworth imagination of future tailless transport aircraft.

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« Reply #177 on: April 24, 2013, 06:14:32 am »
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« Reply #178 on: April 28, 2013, 07:43:41 am »
Back in 1964, a RAND paper predicted that the breeding of intelligent animals (apes, cetaceans, etc.) for low-grade labor would be possible by the year 2020. They also predicted possible uses for such animals in reconnaissance and other 'ground-combat tasks'.

http://www.paleofuture.com/blog/2011/8/17/super-intelligent-ape-chauffeurs-by-the-year-2020.html

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« Reply #179 on: May 10, 2013, 02:08:19 am »
The success of the Gerry Anderson TV shows in the 1960s led to a magazine based on them called TV 21.  The relevance of this to this thread is that TV 21 portrayed a world about 100 years in the future from 1965.

The magazine (it was more than a comic) presented some fantastic, if totally impractical designs.  I post two here from the 1966 Summer Special courtesy of google images. I would have posted a link to the site but my computer won’t connect to it at the moment. It is a great site called projects sword toys.

The reappearance of the Anderson series in the early 90s led to a new flurry of magazines with the original TV 21 artwork. These have also appeared in books.

The artist Graham Bleathman did some wonderful colour cross sections. Some can be seen on this site below.

http://www.grahambleathman.co.uk/crosssectionslisting.htm

TV 21 remains a strong memory for me because unlike Star Trek or Dr Who it portrayed a complete future world based on the world as it was in the 1960s extrapolated from the Anderson shows but with a whole back story.  It even allowed Terry Nation to lend his Daleks minus Dr Who into a series of stories that were later re-published as the Dalek Chronicles. When this series ended it left open the possibility of the Daleks arriving in the TV21 world of 2067 (something I had a bash at describing

http://www.spectrum-headquarters.com/fanfic/Dalek_Invasion_Earth_2068_plotline.htm

Nothing since has grabbed my interest quite so much.

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« Reply #180 on: May 10, 2013, 04:59:57 am »
Great find UK 75.

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« Reply #181 on: May 16, 2013, 06:01:14 pm »
Not sure if this was meant to be the future, but rather cool none-the-less....

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/05/ludek-peseks-lunar-expedition-1964/





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- - MAC-1; a low speed high capacity conveyor type system for use
in such Major Activity Centers as central business districts
and terminals.

- - MAC-2; a low speed, medium capacity, personal-vehicle-onguideway
system for use in central business districts and
terminals.

- - Dial-A-Bus; a computer-scheduled jitney-size vehicle designed
to provide door-to-door service in low density areas characterized
by diffused origin-destination trips.

- - PAS; a Personalized Automobile Service which uses small battery
operated autos at depots 500 to 1000 feet apart in low density
areas for local travel.

- - NET 1-2; an urban wide Network of guideways 1 or 2 miles apart
for fully automated continuous auto type vehicle flow at 50 to
70 miles per hour.

- - NET 3; a second generation NET development to permit street to
guideway access to vehicles.

- - FTL-1; a Fast Transit Link designed to provide high velocity
(100 to 140 MPH), high capacity travel between major centers
for trips up to 50 miles.

- - FTL-2; service similar to FTL-1 with velocities of up to 300 MPH
based on use of evacuated tunnels to reduce drag.

- - HSR-A; intercity rail systems based on improvements to vehicles
and existing track which will allow maximum speeds of 150 MPH.

- - HSR-C; completely new rail system designed to provide maximum
speeds of 200 MPR.

- - TACV; a guideway and air cushion vehicle system for intercity
travel at maximum speeds of 300 MPH.

- - TVS; vehicles traveling on continuous tracks in reduced pressure
tunnels at intercity speeds of up to 400 miles per hour.

- - Auto-Pallet; fully automated individual flow pallets which bodily
transport automobiles for intercity travel at speeds of up
to 130 miles per hour.

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« Reply #184 on: June 28, 2013, 05:30:20 am »
Hi,


here is a weird French SST aircraft.

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« Reply #185 on: June 28, 2013, 09:54:19 am »
Got a few issues of the short-lived Science pour tous but none with that particular page I'm afraid.

The issue that is mentioned in the article (N°11, December 1947) I DO have but that's not the one which the page came from!

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« Reply #188 on: July 23, 2013, 05:10:09 am »
here is from a Russian film,a space rocket being launch from twin fuselage aircraft
in 1957.

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« Reply #189 on: July 23, 2013, 05:31:31 am »
here is from a Russian film,a space rocket being launch from twin fuselage aircraft
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« Reply #190 on: August 23, 2013, 01:33:05 pm »
this time french vision of future of 1970s the Mach 3 aircraft. 
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"Demain mach 3", in: "Vaillant" Nr.931, Paris, March 1963
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« Reply #191 on: August 23, 2013, 02:48:48 pm »
Very nice drawings my dear Michel.

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« Reply #192 on: September 02, 2013, 04:18:21 am »
Via the archive at the Dieselpunk blog:

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #195 on: September 04, 2013, 08:25:05 am »
Hi Gray,


please,can you focus on aviation,that was my intention when I opened this topic.

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« Reply #196 on: September 04, 2013, 08:34:39 am »
Sorry hesham. Would projects like the Manhattan Airport count?

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« Reply #197 on: September 04, 2013, 09:57:24 am »
That's nice.

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« Reply #198 on: September 25, 2013, 10:20:23 am »
Shown in the "Fliegerkalender 2014", just to show, that submersible aircraft were already en vogue before WW II,
a "Danish design, already tested in the North Sea", published in Modern Mechanics 1930. It bears some resemblance
to the Dornier Wal, should have telescopic wings, foldable tailplane ad torpedo tubes in the bow.
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« Reply #199 on: October 13, 2013, 05:05:44 am »

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« Reply #200 on: October 23, 2013, 06:41:00 am »


At the same time on both sides of the Atlantic were planned aircraft that could carry 400 to 450 km / h Reisegeschwindkeit 50-100 passengers over several thousand kilometers.
Visionary and gigantic, a single leaf-air ship of Adam Antes, a sculptor from Darmstadt.


The Antes aircraft Model.


http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1286433&page=4

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« Reply #202 on: December 07, 2013, 04:47:47 am »

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This is Skyport One, a sketch of an airport conceived by James Dartford for the Glass Age Development Committee. Although designed for the London of 2000 A.D., its designer believes it could be built today. It would be located in St. George's Circus, not far from Waterloo Station and would be 500 feet tall. Planes and heli-buses would use the platform atop the three tall, glass-enclosed elevator shafts through which passengers and crew members would be carried from street level. Other features would be a sky-top restaurant with a far-reaching view of the city. The building below would house offices, hotels and garages.
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« Reply #203 on: December 07, 2013, 05:25:57 am »
http://gizmodo.com/12-radical-unbuilt-airport-designs-from-100-years-of-a-1472198637/@mattnovak

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1934: An Airport Above the Thames

By the 1930s, air travel was considered the glamorous future of travel—and cities were looking for ways to accommodate the rapid influx of planes. This drawing appeared in a 1934 issue of Popular Science, proposing an airport on the Thames—with an entrance into Westminster Palace.

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« Reply #204 on: December 07, 2013, 02:24:07 pm »
Hi,


I don't know what was this !.

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« Reply #205 on: December 07, 2013, 03:37:27 pm »
It would be located in St. George's Circus, not far from Waterloo Station and would be 500 feet tall. Planes and heli-buses would use the platform atop the three tall, glass-enclosed elevator shafts...[/c]
Ummm... *why??* I can see the value in putting a landing platform on top of a building. I can see some sense it putting a landing platform well *above* a building. But *hundreds* of feet??
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« Reply #206 on: December 07, 2013, 05:29:33 pm »
Noise abatement?

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« Reply #207 on: December 08, 2013, 04:26:12 am »
...I can see the value in putting a landing platform
on top of a building. I can see some sense it putting a landing platform well *above* a building. But *hundreds* of feet??

Perhaps the landing platform is just a kind of dual use and the planned building should be built up to that
height anyway ?
Building the highest skyscraper seem to be a sport of architects, with or more often without a landing platform.
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Noise abatement?
...I can see the value in putting a landing platform
on top of a building. I can see some sense it putting a landing platform well *above* a building. But *hundreds* of feet??

Perhaps the landing platform is just a kind of dual use and the planned building should be built up to that
height anyway ?
Building the highest skyscraper seem to be a sport of architects, with or more often without a landing platform.

Traffic separation is likely to have been part of it. Remember this was the age when flying cars seemed to be just around the corner. Keeping the heli-buses and other 'heavy' VTOLs away from the main body of the building with it's open garage wing for flying cars would have seemed a logical precaution (ground vehicles would have used the underground garage levels).
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« Reply #209 on: December 08, 2013, 02:25:12 pm »
skyscraper roof winds can be quite bad and turbulent, NASA has done quite a lot of wind tunnel tests with them.  Maybe this would help if some of the wind passed beneath the structure.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #210 on: December 12, 2013, 02:01:11 pm »
I forgot another likely reason; Via NBC News:



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« Reply #213 on: January 04, 2014, 04:55:50 pm »
I'm pretty sure we did, but where exactly escapes me at the moment. Did you check this very topic before posting?

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« Reply #214 on: January 05, 2014, 04:01:19 am »
I'm pretty sure we did, but where exactly escapes me at the moment. Did you check this very topic before posting?


Hi Stargazer,


I used the search,specially about the name of the site,but I didn't find anything.

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« Reply #215 on: January 05, 2014, 11:11:13 am »
I used the search,specially about the name of the site,but I didn't find anything.

Strange. But then it's not the first time it's happened. Perhaps also I meant to share it but didn't in the end?

It's a painting by Murray Urquhart taken from Claude Grahame-White and Harry Harper's 1914 book The Aeroplane. The caption going with it is great!

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By the use of such a machine as this, twenty years hence, we shall be able to spend a week-end in New York, as we do now in Paris or Scotland. Flying at immense heights, and at speeds of 200 miles an hour, these huge aircraft carrying hundreds of passengers in vibrationless luxury will pass from London to New York in less than twenty hours.


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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #216 on: January 08, 2014, 11:13:56 am »
Diverting to a topical issue for a moment, via The Drudge Report: http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2014/01/07/time-magazine-swings-both-ways/
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« Reply #217 on: January 08, 2014, 11:55:06 am »
Diverting to a topical issue for a moment, via The Drudge Report: http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2014/01/07/time-magazine-swings-both-ways/

Completely off-topic!

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« Reply #218 on: January 08, 2014, 12:17:33 pm »
[Fleeing to safety of, hopefully, deep enough foxhole]

Mea Culpa.

I don't think this has shown up on the forum before:


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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #220 on: January 13, 2014, 11:10:49 am »
On the motives of a real project OKPB by Grokhovski (1934-35)

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« Reply #221 on: January 13, 2014, 01:48:59 pm »
My dear Borovik,


do you meant,it was a real design ?.

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« Reply #222 on: January 14, 2014, 05:41:33 am »
Hi,


I confess with my dear Stargazer's advice about this aircraft,so I put it in right
place.

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« Reply #223 on: January 16, 2014, 01:39:39 pm »
Hi,


From Modern Mechanix magazine,here is a very huge ocean airliner and
a modern autogyro.

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« Reply #225 on: January 26, 2014, 04:49:52 am »
Hi,


here is from Aerophile January 1947,an imagination of V-2 missile,conversion into
a rocket space craft.


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« Reply #226 on: January 27, 2014, 04:06:03 am »
Hi,


from Aerophile magazine,here is a strange launch system and future helicopter.

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« Reply #227 on: January 27, 2014, 04:38:19 am »
The "future helicopter" is meant only as a humorous cartoon and not a project of any kind:


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L.S.S.M.A.A.R. (League for Slow-Speed and Medium Altitude Aerial Rambling). We wait for the sponsor who will equip us with the aerogyrocar: as a lifelong member I'm ready for takeoff.


The "aerogyrocar" goes by the name "Le Rat d'Art", which literally translates as the "art rat" but is also a pun on the word "radar" (same pronunciation).

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« Reply #228 on: January 27, 2014, 05:02:02 am »
OK Stargazer.

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« Reply #229 on: January 28, 2014, 04:24:48 am »
Hi,


the future twin fuselage transatlantic flying boat.


Aerophile

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« Reply #230 on: January 29, 2014, 04:29:00 am »
Hi,


here is an imagination for six engined stratosphere aircraft.

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« Reply #231 on: January 29, 2014, 05:26:43 am »
here is an imagination for six engined stratosphere aircraft.


Please provide the reference for the item so other researchers can trace the corresponding article. Thanks.

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« Reply #232 on: January 29, 2014, 07:25:39 am »
here is an imagination for six engined stratosphere aircraft.


Please provide the reference for the item so other researchers can trace the corresponding article. Thanks.


OK Stargazer,


but the problem is,I found it from two days,between Aerophile of 1940 up to 1945,now I can't
remember in which year or the issue,that will take sometimes.
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« Reply #233 on: January 29, 2014, 07:42:51 am »
but the problem is,I found it from two days,between Aerophile of 1940 up to 1945,now I can't
remember in which year or the issue,that will take sometimes.

L'aérophile, October 1942, p.238

Type part of a sentence in brackets in the search box (I typed "scaphandre stratosphérique") and it will narrow the results.

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« Reply #234 on: January 29, 2014, 08:11:25 am »
Thanks.

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« Reply #235 on: January 30, 2014, 08:05:31 am »
Hi,


I don't know if that was a real fighter design or just a hypothetical aircraft,
it was from Louis Petit,and I don't know if that was a designer or author ?.


Ailes 1940

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« Reply #236 on: January 30, 2014, 08:21:24 am »
Hi,


I don't know if that was a real fighter design or just a hypothetical aircraft,
it was from Louis Petit,and I don't know if that was a designer or author ?.


Ailes 1940


I discover,he was an author only,not designer.

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« Reply #237 on: January 30, 2014, 08:22:02 am »
Louis Petit was a regular aviation illustrator at the time, but certainly not an engineer. This is pure fantasy artwork.

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« Reply #238 on: January 30, 2014, 08:30:17 am »
Louis Petit was a regular aviation illustrator at the time, but certainly not an engineer. This is pure fantasy artwork.


OK Stargazer.

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« Reply #239 on: February 07, 2014, 05:46:52 am »
Hi,


here is imagine for aircraft from Lucien Cave,I think it was just a dream,isn't it ?.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6576029p/f14.image

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« Reply #240 on: February 07, 2014, 06:34:26 am »
here is imagine for aircraft from Lucien Cave,I think it was just a dream,isn't it ?.


I believe that the mention "Salon des Humoristes" ought to be enough to answer this question...  ;)

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« Reply #241 on: February 07, 2014, 10:39:17 am »
The civil version of the "Flying Tank", first published in a french magazien in the '30s
and published in Luftfahrt International 13, 1976 !   ;)
Even the helipad seems to be there ...

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« Reply #242 on: February 07, 2014, 01:50:31 pm »
The civil version of the "Flying Tank", first published in a french magazien in the '30s
and published in Luftfahrt International 13, 1976 !   ;)
Even the helipad seems to be there ...


Yes my dear Jemiba,now I remember it.

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« Reply #243 on: February 12, 2014, 04:19:44 am »
You are right my dear Jemiba,


and the wing consider very small also.


Here is anther seaplane,but a giant one,in flying wing configuration and eleven
engines.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6553715k/f14.image

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« Reply #244 on: February 13, 2014, 07:06:36 am »

Here is anther seaplane,but a giant one,in flying wing configuration and eleven
engines.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6553715k/f14.image


By the way,


the M. G. C. Richard who designed that aircraft,created many airplanes,mentioned
in Les Ailes,but without a drawings.

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« Reply #245 on: February 18, 2014, 07:27:49 am »
Topic temporarily closed until we sort out what were pure artistic imaginings, technically sound proposals and downright humorous musings in both this and the similar topic found in the "Early Projects" section.

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Eddie Rickenbacker Future Airplanes from 1929
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Hi,

Mr. Franklin L. Wallace made a rocket-driven airplane Model in 1930;

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/expect-high-speed-of-rocket-driven-plane/

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« Reply #250 on: March 27, 2016, 05:19:18 am »
From ZB Illustrierte 2/1956.

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« Reply #251 on: March 31, 2016, 05:47:12 am »
From  THINGS TO COME,a future helicopter by William Cameron;

http://theredlist.com/wiki-2-20-777-779-view-1930-1940-profile-1936-bthings-to-come-b.html

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« Reply #253 on: April 16, 2016, 07:11:04 am »
From the Atomic Samba FB page.

"1941 Chrysler Styling Concept Rendering by Gil Spear."


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In God we trust, all others we monitor. :-p

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« Reply #255 on: April 16, 2016, 08:38:14 am »
Nice find my dear XP67_Moonbat.

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« Reply #259 on: November 19, 2016, 05:19:15 am »
Future Airliners over New York in 1925.
Hesham, at the bottom of the blog he has corrected the date and says it is from 1911 or earlier.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #260 on: November 19, 2016, 05:31:37 am »
Future Airliners over New York in 1925.
Hesham, at the bottom of the blog he has corrected the date and says it is from 1911 or earlier.

OK Schneiderman,I will fix IT.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #262 on: December 26, 2016, 06:36:08 pm »
Courtesy of Modern Mechanix, an early 'smart bomb'

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Imagine yourself strapped within a hollow chamber inside a huge air bomb, surrounded on all sides by high explosives. In front of you is an airplane type udder which steers the tail unit of the bomb. Windows in the nose enable you to see ahead. You’re loaded into the bomb, which is placed in its nest under the fuselage of a bombing plane. The bomber takes off, soars above a target—say, an ammunition dump of the enemy. Up above you, the pilot of the plane pulls a lever.

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/jap-pilots-ride-to-death-on-flying-bombs/#mmGal

There seems to be a glitch with the gallery function preventing one of the pages from being shown in closeup.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #264 on: March 21, 2017, 09:28:54 am »
I have those two artist drawings from ebay,but I don't remember from where ?.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #269 on: October 14, 2017, 08:20:50 am »
Some dreams.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #271 on: October 18, 2017, 10:29:13 am »
Electric Autogyro airliner?

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #273 on: September 02, 2018, 11:00:10 am »
One of the recurring machines in the Gerry Anderson world of 2065 was the helijet. A rotorless helicopter based on the famous Shorts Bedstead and SC1.
Reality has favoured the helicopter.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #274 on: October 20, 2018, 08:10:39 am »
From ZB Illustrierte 2/1956.

Can anyone translate the text here ?.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #275 on: November 14, 2018, 07:00:06 am »
From Cielo 1953 10,

I don't know what was this ?,a rocket interceptor or ... ?.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #276 on: December 05, 2018, 09:31:24 am »
From Sikorsky and Hughes respectively (h/t Triton)



The sole imperative of a government, once instituted, is to survive.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #277 on: December 06, 2018, 04:39:08 am »
They are a real Projects,and aren't belonged to this section ?.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #278 on: December 06, 2018, 05:24:37 am »
It was the heliports shown.
The sole imperative of a government, once instituted, is to survive.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #279 on: December 12, 2018, 05:02:07 am »
From Cielo 1953 10,

I don't know what was this ?,a rocket interceptor or ... ?.

It's a naïve speculation of a radar-driven "limpet plane" able to snatch an incoming nuclear missile and ward it off its target.

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Re: Imagination of the future from the past
« Reply #280 on: December 13, 2018, 03:46:06 am »
It's a naïve speculation of a radar-driven "limpet plane" able to snatch an incoming nuclear missile and ward it off its target.

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