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Aeromarine & Aeromarine-Klemm designations
« on: April 27, 2011, 06:30:26 am »
Aeromarine

(nd)   Boland's first, unsuccessful plane (1909, 1 built)
B   two-place pusher motor; canard stabilizers with twin rudders between the wingtips (1910, 1 built)
(nd)   Aeromarine's first official type, Boland's single-seat canard pusher flying boat (1914, 1 built)
(nd)   military tractor, no detail (1915)   
R-13   one of the world's first sport planes; crashed (1917, 1 built)
M-1   two-seat wooden biplane trainer by Charles F. Willard; 100hp Hall-Scott A-7A   engine (1917, 6 built)
20   two- to four-seat pusher engine type designed by Charles Willard   (1918)
700   SEAPLANE twin-torpedo seaplane with 90hp Aeromarine 6 (also known as Model 7)   (1918, 3 built)
700?   SEAPLANE (another 3 built)
39   seaplane primary trainer version of M-1; wingspan increased to carry weight of twin floats (1 built)
39-A   production version on wheels/floats; redesigned vertical tail surfaces, no tail float, single ventral radiator, Hall-Scott A-7A engine (1917, 50 built)
39-B   version with 100hp Curtiss OXX-6 engine (150 built)
39-B?   SPORTSMAN civil Model 39-B by Burnelli; refitted with floats first aerial delivery of mail to a ship at sea (1917?, 1 built)
39-R   no data (1921, ~14 built)
40/-B   SPORT SEAPLANE flying boat using wing panels and struts of Model 39 on a new flying boat hull (1919)   
40-C   SPORT SEAPLANE with 150 hp Aeromarine U-8 engine (1918)   
40-F   FLYING BOAT naval trainer version; one or two may have been tested by the Coast Guard (50 built)
40-F   FLYING BOAT second order; cancelled with the end of war (none built)
40-L   SPORT SEAPLANE civil sport with 130hp Aeromarine L pusher engine (1918)   
40-T   SPORT SEAPLANE civil sport with 100hp Curtiss OXX-6 pusher engine (1919)   
40-U   SPORT SEAPLANE civil sport with Aeromarine U-6D pusher engine (1919)   
41   FLYING BOAT conversions of Model 40 (mentioned in 1922 letter) (1922?)
AS-1   scout-observation twin-float biplane type   (1920, 1 built)
AS-2   similar to AS-1 (1921, 2 built)
(nd)   DH-4B contract-built British De Havilland scout-observation (125 built)
(nd)   DH-4B one example specially tested at Wright Field; no data (same as Whitbeck Special ?) (1 conversion)
43-L   experimental passenger pusher boat with Aeromarine L-6D or U-6D engine (1922, not built)
44-L   experimental passenger pusher boat with Aeromarine L-6D or U-6D engine (1922, not built)
50   LIMOUSINE FLYING BOAT biplane pusher with 150hp Hispano Suiza; also called CABIN FLYING BOAT (1919)
50-B   LIMOUSINE FLYING BOAT version with 180hp Aeromarine U-8 (>B-8) pusher and enclosed cockpit (1919)
50-B-2   LIMOUSINE FLYING BOAT undocumented version
50-C   LIMOUSINE FLYING BOAT undocumented version, presumably an engine change   
50-L   LIMOUSINE FLYING BOAT undocumented version, presumably an engine change / also a 50-L-8 found   
50-S   LIMOUSINE FLYING BOAT also known as Model 50-U8D; all-metal fuselage; 180hp U-8D or Hisso pusher (1919)   
52   also known as Model 52-U8D; 3-place version of 50 with Aeromarine U-8D pusher engine (1921)
55   also known as Model 55-L8; version of 52, also with Aeromarine U-8D pusher engine (1922)
60   LIMOUSINE FLYING BOAT twin-engine transport biplane flying-boat; also found as the Model 60-U-8-D (1922)
60-S-2   LIMOUSINE FLYING BOAT undocumented version     
75   AERIAL CRUISER   civil conversions of F-5L(2)/HS-2L(7); also as NAVY FLYING CRUISER / NAVY CRUISER (1920, 9 built)
80   AERIAL CRUISER   flying-boat converted from HS-2L with enclosed passenger compartment (1920)
85   AERIAL CRUISER   flying-boat converted from HS-2L seating four to six passengers, increased gross weight (1920)
(nd)   Army NBS-1, subcontracted Martin MB-2 design (25 built)
(nd)   CARGO LAND AIRPLANE   twin-engine biplane proposal, also known as the Aeromarine PASSENGER   
B   described as a version of the BMW Model A (no details)     
HS   surplus HS-2L wings and engine structure with an Aeromarine hull (1921, 1 built?)
SBG-1   glider (no details) (1 built?)
(nd)   Army PG-1 ground pursuit, built by Engineering Division and Boeing (1922, 3 built)
(nd)   SEA SCOUT, no data, possibly rejected by Navy (1922)   
WM   reported experiment with variable-camber wing using a De Havilland DH-4B (1922, 1 conversion, flown?)
(nd)   POLAR BEAR derivative of Model 75 with glazed nose for Uppercu's Arctic Expedition (1923, existed?)   
AM-1   MAIL PLANE replacement for DH-4 in mail and cargo duties, but test flights were disappointing (1923, 1 built)
AM-2   NIGHT MAIL CARRIER similar to AM-1, but radiator relocated beneath the engine (1923, 1 built)
AM-3   NIGHT MAIL CARRIER with radiator moved in front of engine like DH-4; fuel tanks on upper wing moved inside fuselage (1923, 1 built)
(nd)   experimental variable-camber modified Sperry MESSENGER (1924, 1 conversion)
BM-1   MAIL PLANE scheduled, but not built; some sources claim one built, but unregistered (1924, one built?)
CO-L   Army two-seat observer with 400hp Liberty 12 engine (1924, not built)
A.T.   single-engine transport proposal (not built)   
A.M.C.   METAL COMMERCIAL first metal hull flying boat constructed in the US, derivative of USN Curtiss HS-2L (1923, 1 built)
A.M.C.?   METAL COMMERCIAL version or modification of A.M.C. as Morro Castle II with shorter lower wings     
E.O.   aluminium-hull flying boat (1924)
E.O.   reported second or modification to a larger fin, increased dihedral (became Edo Model B?)   
L.D.B.   (Type XII)   Army biplane bomber design; four engines in push-pull configuration (1924, not built)
L.D.B.   (Type XIII)   Army biplane bomber design; Airfoil-shaped fuselage, Model W engines (1924, not built)
A.S.M.   SEA MESSENGER   proposed single-seat flying-boat; last Aeromarine project (1924, not built)
(nd)   ICE BOAT, no details or date   
     

Aeromarine-Klemm
           
AKL-16A   no data; existed?     
L-20   all-wood, part fabric-covered wing; pivoting, then conventional wingtips for ailerons (marketed by Boland) (1928)
L-25   imported Klemm powered glider design (marketed by Boland) (1928, ~60 built)
L-25A   also known as AKL-40 or AKL-25A; Salmson engine (formerly under Type 2-47) (1928)
L-25A   also known as AKL-40 or AKL-25A; EDO twin-float version (1929)
L-25A-1   undocumented version (3 built)
AKL-60   prototypes of the AKL-26 (1929)
AKL-70   TRAINER, also known as Model 70; 70hp LeBlond 5E engine (1929, ~10 built)
AKL-26   production of AKL-60; LeBlond engine (1930)
AKL-26 Sp.   twin-float modification   (1930)
AKL-26A   extra fuel tank, LeBlond engine (1929, 1 conversion)
L-26A   Kantner twin-float conversion (marketed under the company name Uppercu) (1934, 14+ built)
L-26B   also as AKL-85, AKL-26B or Model 85 FLYER; LeBlond 5DF engine; floats possible (1930)
L-26X   version with 65hp Velie M-5 engine (1932)
AKL-27   heavier conversions of L-26B with 110hp LeBlond 7DF engine; also known as L-27 (1930)


NOTE: (nd) does not signify that there existed no designation, but rather that this designation is not known.
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Re: Aeromarine & Aeromarine-Klemm designations
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2016, 01:08:55 pm »
Aeromarine
(nd)   Aeromarine's first effort, a single-seat canard pusher flying boat (1909, 1 built)
This was the Boland's 1914 Flying Boat. It is wrong to say that Uppercu built the plane in 1909. It was in that year that Boland tried to built his first, unsuccessful plane.

8   two-place pusher motor; canard stabilizers with twin rudders between the wingtips (1910, 1 built)
Not model '8', but model 'B' (an error traced to Aerofiles). It was the 1912-1913 model, based in the 1910 open cockpit Boland tailless biplane.
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Re: Aeromarine & Aeromarine-Klemm designations
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2016, 08:07:59 am »
Good Info AirAusquin,many thanks.

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Re: Aeromarine & Aeromarine-Klemm designations
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2016, 04:10:01 pm »
Not model '8', but model 'B' (an error traced to Aerofiles). It was the 1912-1913 model, based in the 1910 open cockpit Boland tailless biplane.

That number "8" had always seemed strange to me... Thanks for the correction, Alejandro, I've updated the post with your corrections.

(for your information I did a more up-to-date version of this list for my upcoming website, and so I didn't take the time to go back over this one since then!)

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Re: Aeromarine & Aeromarine-Klemm designations
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 07:25:24 am »
Aeromarine Model XXIX (29) is the pontoon derivative for the Navy of the M-1 Military Trainer for the Army. (Aviation Magazine, June 1, 1917, pg. 380). However, there is some confusion between this reference and the Aeroplane Yearbook of 1919. Other references has this as the Model 39A.
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Re: Aeromarine & Aeromarine-Klemm designations
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 03:15:37 pm »
My dear Dynoman,I think they meant Type-39A.

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Re: Aeromarine & Aeromarine-Klemm designations
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 06:29:11 am »
Hesham, thank you. I am in agreement that the article was missing an 'X' (for 39 and not 29). The aircraft is identified elsewhere as the Military Seaplane Tractor and Model 39A.