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Wibault Aircraft Designation
« on: December 29, 2012, 07:44:57 am »
Hi,


I will try to talk about that difficult aircraft designation;

Wib.1      single seat biplane fighter built in 1919
Wib.2      BN.2 two seat heavy bomber biplane,built in 1921
Wib.3      single seat high-wing monoplane fighter to C.1 1921 competition
Wib.4      heavy bomber project (not sure)
Wib.5      single seat parasol wing fighter project,submitted to C.1 1923
Wib.6      two-seat parasol wing fighter derivative of Wib.5
Wib.7      single seat parasol wing fighter,intended for C.1 1923 competition,the winner
Wib.71,72,73,74 & 75 a derivative of Wib.7
Wib.8      two-seat parasol wing monoplane fighter to C.2 1925 competition
Wib.9      single seat high-wing fighter,built for C.1 1923 competition
Wib.10    a twin-boom single seat fighter project,amy be for C.1 1923
Wib.10/II re-allocated for two-seat parasol wing recce aircraft,built for A.2 1923 competition

Wib.11    single seat fighter project powered by one 500 hp engine,for C.1 1923
Wib.12    two-seat parasol wing monoplane fighter,built for C.2 1925 competition
Wib.121  fighter-recce derivative aircraft,became Vikers V.121
Wib.122  single seat fighter for British Air Ministry
Wib.123  two-seat recce aircraft for R.2 1925 competition
Wib.124  two-seat observation aircraft for A.2 1928 competition
Wib.125  two-seat observation aircraft for A.2 1928 competition
Wib.13 Trombe I   single seat lightweight fighter to C.1 1926 Jockey fighter contest
Wib.130 Trombe I  redesigned of the Wib.13 by 1928
Wib.14    two-seat parasol wing tourist aircraft project
Wib.14H  a floatplane version of Wib.14
Wib.15    single seat fighter project to C.1 1926 contest

Wib.160 Trombe II  a more powerful version of Wib.130 Trombe I,also for C.1 1926
Wib.170  single seat lightweight fighter for C.1 1926
Wib.180  ------?
Wib.190  ------?
Wib.200  ------?
Wib.210  single seat low-wing lightweight fighter for C.1 1928
Wib.220  three seat high-wing recce aircraft,built for RN.3 1928
Wib.230  three engined transport aircraft project (not sure)
Wib.240  three engined floatplane transport seaplane,built in 1933
Wib.250  ------?
Wib.260  two seat recce aircraft,built for A.2 1928
Wib.270  single seat lightweight fighter project for C.1 1928
Wib.280  three engined low-wing 12-passenger light transport aircraft
Wib.281,282 & 283  developed from Wib.280
Wib.290  ------?
Wib.300  ------?
Wib.310  was a single seat fighter with Lorraine Petrel engine
Wib.311  was a single seat fighter with Farman engine
Wib.312  was a single seat fighter with Hispano-Suiza 12X engine
Wib.313   single seat low-wing lightweight fighter,built for C.1 1930
Wib.320  ------?
Wib.330  transport aircraft (no more details)
Wib.340  two seat low-wing tourist aircraft project
Wib.350  ------?
Wib.360  single engined low-wing light transport aircraft
Wib.361,362,363,364,365,366 & 367 were a variants developed from Wib.360
Wib.368  two seat record breaker aircraft,based on Wib.360


Also;

Wib.100  double deck four engined heavy transport aircraft
Wib.200  ------?
Wib.300  ------?
Wib.400  ------?
Wib.500  ------?
Wib.600  ------?
Wib.700  may be tandem two seat light aircraft

Twin engined fighter for C.1 1938 competition

A series of Gyropter,please see my dear Jemiba topic;
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2118.msg100427.html#msg100427

As the later replies from my dear Toura,I re-set the list.

 
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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 08:05:30 am »
Hi Hesham
An happy new year........
and from "aviation magazine"
but nothing more !

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 08:11:44 am »
and an other Wibault 10....
no detail

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 08:20:27 am »
Here the Wibault 14

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 08:22:18 am »
Happy new year my dear Toura,


and merry Christmas,and a great info my dear,that is meaning the Wib.11
fighter was submitted to C.1 1923 tender,and for the twin boom aircraft,
it is very strange,that is because the Wib.10 was mentioned here as a
two seat recce aircraft;


http://www.aviafrance.com/wibault-10-aviation-france-9387.htm


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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 08:24:52 am »
Here the Wibault 14


Wow,very beautiful my dear Toura.

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 08:47:13 am »
Hi Hesham
Yes ! two Wibault 10 ! but mine is simply a projects
without any information ??
and now

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 08:59:11 am »
the 2 deck 4 engines Wibault.....
But our friend Jemiba spoke of this plane some
time ago, I think
 
That's all .........from "aviation magazine"
 
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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 09:03:52 am »
Yes my dear Toura,


Wibault Wib.100.

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012, 01:08:54 pm »
Wibault Wib.670 (Source: unknown)
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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 01:50:37 pm »
OK my dear Toura,and thank you very much.


My dear Maveric,the drawing you had been sent,it was Breguet-Wibault Model-670,and
in the same time called Wibault Wib.100.

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2012, 02:14:26 pm »
The Bréguet-Wibault 670 looks a little bit different from the Wibault Wib.670 aka Wib.100. :o
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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2012, 05:46:00 am »
hi HESHAM
 
here the Wibault 5 and 6
??it is write that the 5 was never finished
and the 6 a paper plane only ??
 
THE Wibault - Breguet 670
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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2012, 05:53:14 am »
and, more. a little project

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2012, 07:24:23 am »
and, more. a little project


Excellent my dear Toura,


you made my day,thank you,and for the last aircraft,I suspect if it was Wib.700,
may be yes and may be no.

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2012, 08:22:34 am »
My dear Hesham
!!!!        I don't know.      !!!
Truly sorry !
Bye

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2012, 08:37:30 am »
Thank you my dear Toura,


and the Wib.700 project was mentioned in Georges Messier site.

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2012, 09:57:07 am »
...and for the last aircraft,I suspect if it was Wib.700,
may be yes and may be no.

I would say "no", as the "Wibault 700" is mentioned as a Wibault-Penhoet type from 1936 in the
Messiers list. BTW, we had it here before : http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4097.msg32216.html#msg32216

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2013, 05:23:08 am »
Hi,


for the Wib.230T,it was mentioned in Flightglobal site;
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1931/1931%20-%200532.html


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The Wibault 230T. three-engined low-wing, cantilever
construction, all-metal commercial transport plane is
equipped with three 250-h.p. Wright-Hispano engines, or
with three Gnome-Rhone 300-h.p. Titan Major K7
motors, and has a ground speed of 237 k.p.h. (147 m.p.h.),
with a cruising speed of 206 k.p.h. (128 m.p.h.). It is
fitted for the transport of 10 passengers, and has a flight
radius of 1,000 km. (620 miles). The official tests have
just been completed by the Service Technique, and it is
said that this plane will be put ill service shortly on one
cr mcre of the air lines.
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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2013, 07:34:47 am »
Hi,


Wib.4  was a bomber project,may be intended for BN.4 competition.
Wib.12T  was light transport aircraft project.
Wib.310,311,312 were a fighter projects ?,no confirm on this.


http://www.vignaud.org/Gestion_BD/Recherche.php

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2018, 10:14:26 am »
Is anyone aware of a Wibault 4-engine flying boat project from 1930?

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2018, 05:58:18 am »
Is anyone aware of a Wibault 4-engine flying boat project from 1930?

Wow,that's new for me my dear Schneiderman,but it's need confirm.

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2018, 09:20:39 am »
Its definitely confirmed, from British company archives, although I'm not yet ready to share the information as I want to dig a little deeper. I also want to check whether anyone with knowledge of French aircraft and Wibault knew about it.


edit: but I can say that there were three conceptual designs, none developed beyond basic layout.
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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2018, 05:52:41 am »
Its definitely confirmed, from British company archives, although I'm not yet ready to share the information as I want to dig a little deeper. I also want to check whether anyone with knowledge of French aircraft and Wibault knew about it.


edit: but I can say that there were three conceptual designs, none developed beyond basic layout.

Whatever,many thanks,and please if you can hint to the anther two concepts,
that will be great,and after about two to three months,the TU magazine will speak
about Wibault in details,and I will share any new Info.
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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2018, 11:48:22 am »
If it helps, the Wilbault project numbers may be 410 Th and 440 Th

Any ideas?

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2018, 04:24:59 am »
If it helps, the Wilbault project numbers may be 410 Th and 440 Th

Any ideas?

It's impossible,if we see the Wib.340 was appeared in 1931,and according to your reference
they created in 1930,so I think those three Projects maybe allocated to Wib.290,Wib.300 &
Wib.320 ?.

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Re: Wibault Aircraft Designation
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2019, 03:31:39 pm »
Hi,

also in Wikipedia,they took from us literally,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wibault