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Offline Deino

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1020 on: December 07, 2017, 08:13:28 am »
Better video:

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1021 on: December 07, 2017, 01:38:00 pm »
The new LOAN-type nozzle seems slightly shorter and possibly slightly larger diameter. It doesn't seem like the engine nacelles would be reshaped much, if at all.

I believe it's because they are all developments of existing systems rather than a brand new design. Cheaper and easier but less capable.

Do you have a single piece of evidence suggesting any of them is a development of an existing system, let alone all of them? What system is the predecessor of KS-U? Or KS-O? For example Su-35S uses an IR-based system for MAWS and it looks totally different.

As I understand it, the electro-optical systems of the Su-57 are developed by UOMZ (the firm that also made the OLS-27), while the Su-35's systems, at least the missile warning systems, were developed by a different firm; how much technology is shared between the two aircraft's systems is unknown. Regardless, the question still remains as to why the Su-57 has three separate infrared sensors with a fair bit of overlap between them; at the very least, I would imagine that the landing/navigation FLIR camera and targeting pod could've been rolled into one onboard system.
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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1022 on: January 16, 2018, 07:30:19 pm »
I don't know if these were posted yet, but here is what I found.

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1023 on: March 07, 2018, 09:53:02 am »
AFAIK the image of T50-10
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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1024 on: March 07, 2018, 12:31:16 pm »
Two more nice shots ... one showing again 510 and one another bird with an RF-number.  ???

Also, none of the camo-pattern fits to 09, 10 or 11? Any idea?

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1025 on: March 07, 2018, 04:23:56 pm »
Well spotted!

T-50-11 repainted and assigned a RF-reg for deployment to Syria?

T-50-10 seems to lack the MiG-29/Su-35 style windshield heating elements.

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1026 on: March 08, 2018, 01:32:29 am »
Well spotted!

T-50-11 repainted and assigned a RF-reg for deployment to Syria?

T-50-10 seems to lack the MiG-29/Su-35 style windshield heating elements.


Indeed ... RF-81775 was allegedly:

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First Sukhoi Su-57 in service with Russian Air Force, has been to Syria. First one to wear RF- registration.

https://www.airteamimages.com/sukhoi-su-57_RF-81775_russia---russian-air-force_300980.html

But I agree with "Red Samovar" that it is most likely a slightly modified T50-11:

https://twitter.com/Strike_Flanker/status/971497575588286464
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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1027 on: March 08, 2018, 08:29:48 am »
It is -11 of course.
Push the envelope,watch it bend.

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1028 on: April 24, 2018, 11:18:42 am »
Surprised no one talking about India pulling out of the SU-57. Is the program in that much trouble?

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1029 on: April 24, 2018, 11:38:53 am »
Surprised no one talking about India pulling out of the SU-57. Is the program in that much trouble?
Surprised that you still don't know the difference between PAK FA and FGFA
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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1030 on: May 25, 2018, 09:37:31 pm »
and it fire stuff i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=iACk08Gp2HE

apparently it's Kh-59MK2


Which is wonderful, i always fascinated on Kh-59MK2. Compact, long ranged and certainly can be carried in numbers. Would make wonderful standoff weapon alternatives for Flankers.

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1031 on: May 26, 2018, 06:52:53 am »
and it fire stuff i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=iACk08Gp2HE

apparently it's Kh-59MK2


Which is wonderful, i always fascinated on Kh-59MK2. Compact, long ranged and certainly can be carried in numbers. Would make wonderful standoff weapon alternatives for Flankers.

An interesting video, I wonder what other weapons they will be test firing or dropping (in the case of bombs) from the Su-50 weapons bays and hardpoints?   B)

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1032 on: May 26, 2018, 07:26:03 am »
As reported three years ago...

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1033 on: May 26, 2018, 07:42:29 am »
Oops, sorry about that, my mistake.  The sands of time.   :-[

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Re: Sukhoi T-50 Su-50 PAK FA - flight testing and development Part II
« Reply #1034 on: May 26, 2018, 01:09:52 pm »
I missed it! I've only ever seen CGI of weapon releases.