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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2013, 11:14:26 am »
Yes, great drawing. Thanks Jemiba.

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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2013, 06:18:00 am »
Thanks for your agreement, here's the corrected drawing of the 2301. One question is still remaining,
at least for me. Some sources state, that two such gliders were realised (e.g. Gérard Hartmann on
Hydroretro), others say, that the 1301 was modified into the swept wing 2301. The latter seems more
plausible to me, as photos are proving that both had the same registration F-WFUZ. Nevertheless, the
photo from "Gerfaut & Griffon", showing the canard configuration is said, that this was "one of the very
last configurations tested on the sailplane." Wouldn't that mean, that the 2301 was re-configured again
to the delta wing ?
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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2013, 06:20:55 am »
Wow,great drawing my dear Jemiba.

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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2013, 01:17:38 pm »
And here's the third variant, the one with canards. It's principally based on the single photo, so
I consulted photos and drawings of the Gerfaut I, which had to my opinion a very similar tailplane
in a similar position. The canards seems to have had a clipped delta planform, for span and shape
I used a drawing of an early Gerfaut layout, which had canards, too, as a pattern. Other differences
to the "standard" 1301 seem to have been limited to the deletion of the pitots in front of the cockpit,
at the fin and at the wing tips, which were replaced by the long pitot with the kinked end at the nose.
And the faired over slot for the tailplane in the fin, of course.
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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2014, 02:30:34 am »

In the March 2014 issue of the French magaazine 'Le Fana de l'Aviation' (N 532 - Mars 2014), there is an article about the Nord 1402 Gerfaut and the Ars.1301 .
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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2015, 06:44:12 am »
I need identification of this jet  please

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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2015, 06:45:21 am »
and this pictures

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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2015, 06:48:06 am »
Arsenal (SFECMAS) 1402, pre-project to the later Nord 1402 Gerfaut.
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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2015, 07:20:21 am »
Thenks verry much

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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2015, 04:38:37 pm »
It's dorky looking!
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Re: Arsenal de l'aéronautique ("Arsenal") projects
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2019, 02:18:43 pm »
From Decollage 10/1946,

here is a hypothetically VG.70 artist drawing.