flateric said:
royabulgaf said:Just out of curiosity, why is it that whenever there is something of the highest level of secrecy to be shown on this site, it comes from Gregory in Moscow.
Clioman said:Nice background music. Anybody know the name/composer?
SOC said:I think that was done with Google Earth, you can use it to make video tours now.
tacitblue said:I'm surprised that I haven't seen Area51 updates for MS Flight!!
BTW, what do you suppose is in all those hangars out there? It can't all be Ruskie Mig-29s and SU-27s.
tacitblue said:The F-22 is simply not capable of the F-117 mission as it has no FLIR. Hence there is a true replacement for the F-117 out there. The Steven Douglas video of the 2 black triangles is most likely the aircraft in question. It is very easy to see that the angles on the Douglas video are not those of F-117s.
tacitblue said:I'm surprised that I haven't seen Area51 updates for MS Flight!!
bob225 said:One thing i found really interesting was the large hanger completed 07, it's huge 100mtrs by 60, the doors alone are 55m wide! which is enough to fit a B2 into nicely i think, any of those dropped off the radar recently? or something new & big hiding in there?
Sundog said:bob225 said:One thing i found really interesting was the large hanger completed 07, it's huge 100mtrs by 60, the doors alone are 55m wide! which is enough to fit a B2 into nicely i think, any of those dropped off the radar recently? or something new & big hiding in there?
According to AvWeek, it's for the new stealthy UAV prototype (SensorCraft?) from N-G.
bob225 said:....One thing i found really interesting was the large hanger completed 07....
Stargazer2006 said:Sentinel
bob225 said:Out of curiosity anyone know why they keep building new hangers? Are the SR-71 / U2 hangers to old / unfit for purpose, full, or just not big enough?
Also, thinking about project like "blackstar" wasn't that supposed to be huge? if so were there hangers at groom big enough to house it during the right time-frame or is does that blow the whole thing out of the water in one go?
quellish said:Unless that big hangar is just a cover for a massive liquid hydrogen tank. Hmmm....
seruriermarshal said:Stargazer2006 said:Sentinel
RQ-170 ?
Stargazer2006 said:seruriermarshal said:Stargazer2006 said:Sentinel
RQ-170 ?
Er... no. Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the so-called "F-121" interceptor which some claim to have seen taking off at night near Tonopah, a design similar to an actual project which once appeared in some Hughes ads.
aerodog said:Groom Lake is where the US tests/flies its blackest programs - Edwards or some other like base would do just fine as a test site if not for one thing: requirement for a remote location. Groom Lake might as well have a motto that says, "Unknown unknowns flown here". Since SR-71 standdown (lets say nearly 20 years) you would have to be stupid to think the US has not flown some new unusual black aircraft from Groom. Office space, infrastructure, hanger upgrades, tankage, etc., are red herrings (nobody comes to this site to find out about the Groom Lake Track Meet (lol). In 20 years, some remarkable black project flight vehicle (even just one, large or small) has lifted off from those runways - that is a certainty. If not, why not just pack it all up and send it to Edwards?
LowObservable said:I like the idea of Hangar 18 as a cover for big dead-giveaway cryo tanks...
Back to the present, this is the biggest wave of building since the late 1980s. That one reflected the Reagan administration's black-project launches (that produced hardware in the second half of the decade). This one reflects the Bush activity.
aerodog said:Groom Lake is where the US tests/flies its blackest programs - Edwards or some other like base would do just fine as a test site if not for one thing: requirement for a remote location. Groom Lake might as well have a motto that says, "Unknown unknowns flown here". Since SR-71 standdown (lets say nearly 20 years) you would have to be stupid to think the US has not flown some new unusual black aircraft from Groom. Office space, infrastructure, hanger upgrades, tankage, etc., are red herrings (nobody comes to this site to find out about the Groom Lake Track Meet (lol). In 20 years, some remarkable black project flight vehicle (even just one, large or small) has lifted off from those runways - that is a certainty. If not, why not just pack it all up and send it to Edwards?