Vega - Europe's Newest Rocket

These sorts of things happen, you stress test something beyond its normal operating limits and find something else cant take the strain. Its good data if you spot something else whose margin needs to be boosted.
 
The next test-flight of the Vega C IMO should use an instrumented dummy-payload simulator instead of an actual satellite in case something goes wrong.
 
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1700086596836712587
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#AVIO has completed the first five firing tests of DM2 model of M10, the 100kn thrust liquid oxygen/methane engine that will power #VegaE. Optimal performance achieved in 45sec tests at max pressure and Ox rich mixture ratio. #spaceiscloser #space
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1705160007862649336
View: https://twitter.com/Avio_Group/status/1705160007862649336


#Avio is proud to announce that the new LOX-CH Engine #M10 DM2 successfully completed a 340 secs continuous firing test. The new #VegaE’s upper stage engine performed as expected also changing multiple times LOX-CH mixture ratio. Video's speed is 4X #space #spaceiscloser
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ArianeSpace Scrub launch of VV23 (Vega Rocket with 12 satellites)

Source NSF:
Vega-C’s failure during last December’s VV22 mission was found to have been caused by unexpected erosion of a carbon-carbon throat insert in the nozzle on the second-stage engine. Vega-C uses a Zefiro-40 motor, larger than Vega’s Zefiro-23, and the investigation into the VV22 failure cleared Arianespace to resume Vega missions while modifications were made to correct the fault with Vega-C.

A new insert was designed, however, a test firing on June 28 to qualify the new component was unsuccessful with reduced performance and damage to the nozzle noted.

Cause of this failure were modification of insert letting to damage of other hardware...

But there hope
PLD Space suborbital MIURA 1 was launch from Spain, it was success despite underperformance.
the reusable rocket will evolve to MIURA 5 a reusable small Sat launcher
 
I will believe it when I'll heard about it by someone else than La Tribune. Because they are not good at aerospace matters.

Can't remember which french newspaper anounced, half a dozen times (2008-2015) the Rafale first export contract - only to fail miserably. Not sure it was La Tribune ?
 
Archibald said:
I will believe it when I'll heard about it by someone else than La Tribune. Because they are not good at aerospace matters.

Can't remember which french newspaper anounced, half a dozen times (2008-2015) the Rafale first export contract - only to fail miserably. Not sure it was La Tribune ?
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Avio's desire to leave Arianespace is decade old, and they already got part way with the 2017 change of pre-launch responsibilities away from AS. Considering Arianespace is not nearly as attractive now as it was 20 years ago it seems like a truism that whatever post-Vega launcher Avio is preparing will not be commercialised through Arianespace.
I mean even Arianegroup announced they won't commercialise Maiaspace's launcher through Arianespace! If AG does it, then one can't expect Avio to stay past Vega.

Now the question is will Vega ever fly outside of Arianespace, and what about current backlog... Vega C has 16 launches in its backlog (+one of Vega), if they can't get these contracts out of Arianespace, then this divorce will not be effective until 2028 at the earliest, and the competitive market both within and outside europe will be very different then.
 
Someone has a lot of explaining to do in regards to the theft and wilful destruction of these propellant tanks.
 
NMaude said:
Someone has a lot of explaining to do in regards to the theft and wilful destruction of these propellant tanks.
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The original report says they were somehow not entered into Avio's asset management (inventory) system. So when the facility they were in was renovated, no one there knew that the parts actually were Avio assets. At that point, scrapping them made sense.
 
In my best aerospace engineering view Vega was always a purely political project without any real commercially competitive benefits. Good riddance it apparently ends now, which is still way too late. But as the saying goes, better an end with horror than a horror without end.
 
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The original report says they were somehow not entered into Avio's asset management (inventory) system. So when the facility they were in was renovated, no one there knew that the parts actually were Avio assets. At that point, scrapping them made sense.
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In an Italian shall we politely say perhaps politically ... influenced (but definitely NOT Mafia dominated, oh no siree bob!!!) accounting logic...
 
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Michel Van said:
if news is true
Maiaspace and NewSpace increase they Payload for there rocket
putting them in direct competition to Vega-C
oh by the way
Maiaspace rocket is reusable...
https://twitter.com/x/status/1737172356009689374
View: https://twitter.com/Francespace96/status/1737172356009689374
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If the "kick stage" adds one ton of payload in Expendable mode (1500->2500 kg), then it likely, thanks to the rocket equation favouring third stage for higher orbits on reusable launchers, will also add one ton of payload in Reusable mode (500 -> 1500 kg)

Then Maiaspace would have a reusable launcher more capable than the two main German newspace launcher competitors: RFA (1200kg), Isar (1000kg); on top of being competitive with the Vega-C.
 

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