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Vega Airplane Company


Im August 1937 wurde die AiRover Company in Burbank gegründet. Unter ihrem Präsidenten Mac V. F. Short arbeitete das Unternehmen direkt Tür an Tür mit Lockheed. Die erste Aufgabe war, ein Reiseflugzeug modern-ster Bauart zu konstruieren. Im Verlaufe des Jahres 1938 änderte die Firma ihren Namen in Vega Airplane Com-pany. Kurze Zeit später übernahm auch schon Lockheed die Mehrheitsanteile an Vega. Unter eigenem Namen existierte Vega noch einige Jahre weiter, dennoch war die Tochtergesellschaft Lockheeds für einige sehr bekan-nte Entwicklungen aus dem Hause Lockheed bekannt, so z.B. die „ Neptune “ und die „ Harpoon “. 1941 wurde das Unternehmen in Vega Aircraft Corporation umbenannt, und schließlich im November 1943 von Lockheed gänzlich geschluckt.










V. 100 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 101 Beobachtungsflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 102 Transportflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 103 Transportflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 104 Beobachtungsflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 105 Schulflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 106 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 107 Bombenflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 108 Erdkampfflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 109 Schulflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 110 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 111 Zieldarstellungsflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 112 Zieldarstellungsflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 113 Zieldarstellungsflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 114 ( Model 42 ) Zieldarstellungsflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 115 Verkehrsflugzeug Projekt 193
V. 116 Kampfflugzeug Projekt 19
V. 117 Verkehrsflugzeug Projekt 19
V. 118 Verkehrsflugzeug Projekt 19
V. 119 Aufklärungsflugzeug Projekt 19
V. 120 Schulflugzeug Projekt 19
V. 121 Lastensegelflugzeug Projekt 19
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V. 123 Schulflugzeug Projekt 19
V. 124 Schulflugzeug Projekt 19
V. 125 ( Model 35 ) Schulflugzeug 19
V. 126 Schulflugzeug Projekt 19
V. 127 ( Model 21 ) Bombenflugzeug Projekt 19
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V. 131 Bombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 132 Aufklärungsbombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 133 ( Model 23 / B. 34 ) Bombenflugzeug 194
V. 134 ( B. 17E / XB. 38 ) Bombenflugzeug 1943
V. 135 Aufklärungsbombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 136 Verkehrsflugzeug Projekt 1942
V. 137 Aufklärungsbombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 138 Aufklärungsbombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 139 ( B. 17F / XB. 40 ) Bombenflugzeug 194
V. 140 Kampfflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 141 Torpedobombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 142 Erdkampfflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 143 ( PV. 2 "Harpoon" ) Aufklärungsbombenflugzeug 1943
V. 144 Bombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 145 ( PV. 1-1/2 / B. 34A ) Aufklärungsbombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 146 ( P2V-1 "Neptune" ) Patrouillenflugzeug 194
V. 147 ( XB. 34D ) Bombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 148 Transportflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 149 Nachtjagdflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 150 Kampfbombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 151 Bombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 152 Transportflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 153 ( PV. 1-1/2 ) Aufklärungsbombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 154 ( PV. 4 ) Aufklärungsbombenflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 155 Bombenflugzeug Projekt 194
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V. 300 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 194
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V. 302 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 303 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 304 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 305 „ Little Dipper “ Sportflugzeug 1944
V. 306 „ Big Dipper “ Reiseflugzeug 1945
V. 307 Sporthubschrauber Projekt 194
V. 308 " Flying Infantryman " Leichtflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 309 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 310 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 311 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 312 Leichtflugzeug Projekt 194
V. 313 Verbindungsflugzeug Projekt 194
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Mit der Nummer V.313 endete das Bezeichnungssystem der Firma Vega.
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Model 1
Model 2 Reiseflugzeug Projekt 19
Model 3
Model 4
Model 5
Model 6
Model 7
Model 8
Model 9
Model 10
Model 11
Model 12
Model 13
Model 14
Model 15
Model 16
Model 17
Model 18
Model 19
Model 20
Model 21 ( B. 34 ) Bombenflugzeug Projekt 19
Model 22 " Starliner " Reiseflugzeug 1939
Model 23 ( B. 34 ) Bombenflugzeug 19
Model 24 Transportflugzeug Projekt 19
Model 25
Model 26
Model 27
Model 28
Model 29
Model 30
Model 31
Model 32
Model 33
Model 34
Model 35 Schulflugzeug 1939
Model 36
Model 37
Model 38
Model 39
Model 40
Model 41 Zieldarstellungsflugzeug Projekt 19
Model 42 ( V. 114 ) Zieldarstellungsflugzeug Projekt 19
Model 43
Model 44
Model 45
Model 46
Model 47
Model 48
Model 49
Model 50



THANKS to Jemiba and lark for your help!!!

Servus Maveric
 

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May be we can understand it here;
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Here is the same Vega design list in English...

V-100 commercial transport project
V-101 observation plane project
V-102 transport aircraft project
V-103 transport aircraft project
V-104 observation plane project
V-105 trainer project
V-106 commercial transport project
V-107 bomber project
V-108 attack project
V-109 trainer project
V-110 commercial transport project
V-111 target plane project
V-112 target plane project
V-113 target plane project
V-114 target plane project Model 42
V-115 commercial aircraft project
V-116 fighter project
V-117 commercial aircraft project
V-118 commercial aircraft project
V-119 reconnaissance project
V-120 trainer project
V-121 glider project
V-122 unmanned aircraft project
V-123 trainer project
V-124 trainer project
V-125 trainer Model 35
V-126 trainer project
V-127 bomber project Model 21
V-128 no aircraft
V-129 no aircraft
V-130 no aircraft
V-131 bomber project
V-132 reconnaissance bomber project
V-133 bomber Model 23 / B-34
V-134 bomber B-17E / XB-38
V-135 reconnaissance bomber project
V-136 commercial aircraft project
V-137 reconnaissance bomber project
V-138 reconnaissance bomber project
V-139 bomber B-17F / XB-/YB-40
V-140 fighter project
V-141 torpedo-bomber project
V-142 attack project
V-143 reconnaissance bomber PV-2 "Harpoon"
V-144 bomber project
V-145 reconnaissance bomber project PV-1-1/2 / B-34A
V-146 patrol aircraft for USN XP2V-1 "Neptune"
V-147 bomber project XB-34D
V-148 transport aircraft project
V-149 night fighter project
V-150 fighter bomber project
V-151 bomber project
V-152 transport aircraft project
V-153 reconnaissance bomber project PV-1-1/2
V-154 reconnaissance bomber project PV-4
V-155 bomber project
V-156 not allocated
V-157 not allocated
V-158 not allocated
V-159 not allocated
V-160 not allocated
V-161 not allocated
V-162 not allocated
V-163 not allocated
V-164 not allocated
V-165 not allocated
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V-194 not allocated
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V-198 not allocated
V-199 not allocated
V-200 patrol bomber project
V-201 not allocated
V-202 commercial aircraft project
V-203 not allocated
V-204 not allocated
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V-206 not allocated
V-207 not allocated
V-208 not allocated
V-209 not allocated
V-210 multipurpose flying boat project
V-211 not allocated
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V-299 not allocated
V-300 commercial transport project
V-301
V-302 commercial transport project
V-303 commercial transport project
V-304 commercial transport project
V-305 sport aircraft "Little Dipper“
V-306 commercial transport "Big Dipper“
V-307 sport helicopter project
V-308 light aircraft project Flying Infantryman
V-309 commercial transport project
V-310 commercial transport project
V-311 commercial transport project
V-312 light aircraft project
V-313 liaison aircraft project
 

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We already know that Lockheed Burbank and Lockheed Vega used separate TDN (Temporary Design Numbers) systems, respectively as L- and V-. As I research further the Lockheed and Vega model numbers and temporary design numbers, I am faced with more and more evidence that there MUST also have been a separate Model Number system for Vega types, until the coming of the Neptune.

Here is what I found concerning Vega-only Model numbers:

1 FLYING TEST STAND. An AiRover model, an Orion (ALTAIR 8G) fitted with a Unitwin engine
2 STARLINER. An AiRover commercial transport model with Unitwin engine.
3
4
5 Engine nacelle design study for Armstrong-Whitworth ENSIGN
6 Cowling design study for Handley-Page HAMPDEN
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8
9
10 (possibly skipped because of Lockheed ELECTRA)
11 ALTAIR. Unitwin-powered ALTAIR 8G design with conventional undercarriage
12 (possibly skipped because of Lockheed ELECTRA Jr)
13 Probably not assigned out of superstition
14 (possibly skipped because of Lockheed HUDSON)
15 PV-2 HARPOON (V-143) (Model 15-27-01)
16
17 B-17F-50-VE FLYING FORTRESS (V-139), sub-contracted by USAAF for Boeing / XB-38 / XB-40
18 Military export version of LODESTAR
19
20
21 B-34 VENTURA (V-127)
22 STARLINER. Unitwin-powered variant, developed from Model 2
23 B-34 VENTURA (V-133)
24 Transport aircraft project
25
26 NEPTUNE (V-146) became Lockheed Model 26


Some higher numbers of Vega Designs are usually found as regular Lockheed Basic Model Numbers:

33 LITTLE DIPPER / AIR TROOPER (V-305) Model 33-82-01 = Model 33A
34 BIG DIPPER (V-306)
35 VEGA 35 (V-125). Model 35-67 (5 built); probably started out as the L-115 project
36
37 VENTURA / VENTURA II (L-128) Lockheed redesignation of Vega Model 21 bomber/recce twin (L-37, R-37, RM-37…)
40 Ground-controlled Vega-built target drone for USAAC; 5 ex., all lost (1939)
41 Aerial target proposal
42 Aerial target proposal (Vega V-114)
43 Lockheed redesignation of Vega Model 15 HARPOON


I am fully aware that this breakdown of early Lockheed Basic Model Numbers into two separate systems is tentative, but I have a few arguments in favor of such a scheme. First of all, there are too many duplicate numbers for it to simply be a coincidence:

- Lockheed Models 1, 2, 5, 6 were already used for Lockheed's VEGA aircraft (NOT a Vega design)
- Lockheed Model 11 was the XPB-3/FM-2 fighter project for USAAC
- Lockheed Model 15 was a proposed twin-engine transport which evolved into the postwar SATURN
- Lockheed Model 18 was the LODESTAR (although it is also in "my" Vega list)
- Lockheed Model 22 was the P-38/F-4/F-5 LIGHTNING
- Lockheed Model 23 was the initial designation of L-106 (Model 522-66-07), procured as XP-49
- Lockheed Model 24 was a proposed lighter/smaller radial-engined LIGHTNING for US Navy


There is no evidence of separate Model 33 and 35 designators for Lockheed, BUT:

- Lockheed's L-133 fighter design was also designated 133-02-01. The use of the "0" was usually reserved for Basic Model Numbers (TDN usually had one digit version numbers, as in L-134-3, L-168-5,L-238-9...). This could indicate that the project also carried a Model 33 designation at some point.

- Lockheed's XC-35 PRESSURIZED ELECTRA used by Wiley Post carried the unique c/n 3501, perhaps indicating that the Model 35 designation was reserved for it.
These are of course neither chronological nor standard, but Lockheed did the same assimilation of a military number into his Model Numbers on at least three more occasions: B-37 / Model 37, P-80 / Model 80 and F-90 / Model 90. Besides, allocation of Basic Model Numbers was anything but chronological, and examples like Model 20 CHAIN LIGHTNING or Model 89 CONSTITUTION come to mind.

I invite all of you Lockheed and designations maniacs to share your comments and criticism on this post so that hopefully we can advance in the comprehension of those ill-documented questions!
 

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Here's a Vega-built B-17G.
 

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From the May 1952 issue of Naval Aviation News. Previously, aircraft from Vega and then the Lockheed Vega Division (Plant A) had the Navy manufacturer's designation V and aircraft from the Lockheed Burbank plant (Plant B) were identified with the letter O.
 

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Hi,

Sorry to bump such an old post in my first post here,
I'm researching (for a long time already) the Lockheed Neptune (Vega Model 146) I stumbled into something odd, the list above mentions the V135, however I have Vega documentation that mentions the V-146 was based on Vega Model V-135D, where does this D come from ?

P.S.
I have an image of this, however I can't seem to attach an image here ?
 

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Vega's V-135D was the initial US Navy patrol proposal. No clue on the D suffix, but likely there must have been A, B and C alternate designs before it.
The V-146 was a development of V-135 with revised tail surfaces. It became the XP2V-1 Neptune.
There was also a proposed cargo version, the V-148, which remained a project.

Finally, V-156 was a vee-tailed high-speed patrol jet project, but I couldn't say if it was related to the Neptune at all or a whole different design.
 
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